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09-17-2018 , 01:18 PM
V: A good winning old Reg. He has been playing poker for over two decades. Very solid. Saw him made moves preflop(4b with 78s or A4s type hands) but rarely postflop.

UTG straddles, V(HJ,2000) raised to 35 preflops, Hero(Covers) calls with 99 on button. Straddle calls.

Flop(110):Jc9s7h
UTG checks, V bets 80, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Turn(350):Ah
UTG checks, V bets 330, Here tanks for about 30 seconds and calls. UTG folds.
River(1010):Kh
V bets 600, hero calls.

Do you raise on turn? I was planning to raise on turn, but his turn bet was strong and I don't want him to fold if he is bluffing.
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09-17-2018 , 01:28 PM
I think this is wp. Protect your stack 400bb deep with what’s basically the 4th nuts. T8s 4 combos, AA 3 combos JJ 3 combos. Pair that with the fact that he may fold AK or AJ and a tricky QT gets there. Can’t give him full combos of that hand, but it does exist. Call down and expect to be good most of the time. I don’t think there’s enough value in raising here.
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09-17-2018 , 01:30 PM
The ace hits his range, and he bet almost pot. We also have position. I would be more inclined to raise if I was OOP, or if he bet smaller. I don't mind the call there.
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09-17-2018 , 01:46 PM
I would raise flop here theoretically because we're IP on a somewhat wet board with a range advantage. I would raise flop here practically because we have a strong hand that dislikes a lot of turns and we ain't scared of a flop 3bet.

As played, yes, I raise turn. I get the argument that you don't want to blow him off his hand, but he has to put some bluff combos in your range, yes? Just go for it already. Something large enough to deny his drawing range proper calling equity.
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09-17-2018 , 01:51 PM
Preflop: I think you should raise, vs flatting here. In general, when I am entering a pot I like to ISO and get to the pot HU in position when I have the opportunity. When you flat the button here, you are practically inviting the SB and BB to complete and see the flop 4 ways. Obviously your equity goes way down in a 4 way pot, even in position vs HU in position.

This will help widen your 3-bet range and make you less predictable to play against.

Also, gives you a better idea what your opponent's two cards will be by narrowing down his range. He will probably fold at a decent clip, which is not an undesirable outcome.

Flop: No need to raise at this point IMO. Call in position, let his possible bluffs continue and also let him continue with possible value hands worse than yours.

Turn: I'm okay with flatting here OR raising. Both options have decent merits. I don't think he is bluffing unless he specifically has KQhh. I think it comes down to against this player, are you willing to play for stacks AND will he stack off with TOP 2 or less. If you raise on Turn, you are saying that you have a set+ (maybe AJ at worst) for value and KQhh only as a bluff. If you raise and your opponent shoves over the top, you'll be in an incredibly tricky spot.

I think since you are multi-way, I think I lead towards flatting and seeing what UTG does. Certainly possible UTG could have flopped or turned the nuts and will now be executing a check raise. Or he could call with a worse hand putting more money in the pot. A7ss/cc/dd are definitely some hands he could have here.

River: pretty unfavorable runout once main villain leads again. I think it's pretty unlikely he has two pair here, unless its AJ specifically. His range here consists of AJ, JJ, AA, KK, T8, QT for value and TT, JT, and T9 for bluff blockers.

At this point, against this range of hands that would be a 3rd street, I'm probably just flatting. Your hand is the 6th nuts at this point, no need to blow up the pot with the 6th nuts. Win a good size pot OR save 1k by flatting.
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09-17-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
I would raise flop here theoretically because we're IP on a somewhat wet board with a range advantage. I would raise flop here practically because we have a strong hand that dislikes a lot of turns and we ain't scared of a flop 3bet.

As played, yes, I raise turn. I get the argument that you don't want to blow him off his hand, but he has to put some bluff combos in your range, yes? Just go for it already. Something large enough to deny his drawing range proper calling equity.
Keep in mind also, you are not HU on the turn at the point where it's call or raise time. UTG is still in the hand and could definitely have T8 or QT
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09-17-2018 , 02:22 PM
Yeah, given the player behind, a call does seem nicer. I still wouldn't discount raising though. Are we only raising T8s for value in this spot? Does Hero have T8s in his preflop calling range?
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09-17-2018 , 02:46 PM
Do you have the 9h?

If we don't have the 9h, I would raise the turn/fold to V's jam, and check back the river on the Kh. I don't think V was bluffing with nothing(most likely a semi-bluff), he probably picked up tons of outs on the turn, and was semi-bluffing there.

This is a terrible run out for your hands, I would expect to lose on the river for most of time.
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09-17-2018 , 02:52 PM
I'd definitely prefer an iso-raise to like $85 preflop (probably contemplating calling a 4-bet too this deep).

As played pre, I'd raise flop given that it's three-handed. To something like $280 or so.

As played flop, the rest of the hand seems ok. Tough spot on the river but I think we're ahead of enough value hands (AK, AJ) to make the call.
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09-17-2018 , 03:44 PM
"I was planning to raise on turn, but his turn bet was strong and I don't want him to fold if he is bluffing."

I would imagine it is the opposite. I would raise turn. V can have all 2p hands since he raised from LP. We have a hand that needs protected on this board (esp w/ wide V behind) since we are going to hate a ton of rivers in a multiway pot.

AP, its pretty gross after that river, but I call and expect to win more often against this type of thinking player who is less polarized OTR (can make this bet with 2p).

3! preflop seems better as well if we have a tight image.
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