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08-19-2014 , 09:38 AM

xXWARDRUMXx

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

im basically a recreational player. never player at this club before. could use little advice on a hand.

One limper. Hero raises to $25 with JJ. 2 callers. Limper folds. Hero $300. villians ~500

Flop J 9 5 rainbow. hero checks as does villains. turn 10. Villain leads $50. hero? i have no reads as only 30 mins into session. Villain has played most hands so far. Older white guy

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08-19-2014 , 10:10 AM

wewa925

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,039

Why are you not betting flop vs 2 villains? Get some value. Oh and top off pre.

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08-19-2014 , 10:15 AM

iraisetoomuch

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 37,488

$40/$95/$165 (shove).

Letting the flop check through and not stacking someone would be tragic here.
Esp since we are OOP for the hand and can't control any of the action. If a scary turn card comes and we have to check and they check again then we hate life.

As played, click it back to $110 and shove the river. Call it off if he shoves over your turn raise.

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08-19-2014 , 10:16 AM

xXWARDRUMXx

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

Checked flopped hoping A hit turn

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08-19-2014 , 10:20 AM

iraisetoomuch

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 37,488

So you check the flop on the 4/45 chance that an Ace hits the turn? Presumably because you think that your villains have and Ace? If that's the case then it's 3/45, 6.66% of the time. (2/45 or 4.44% if they both have an Ace..) We want to risk a 6.6% chance hoping they might have any ace?

What about all the times they have a pair already and 'put you on AK'?
What about the times that they just get scared because you bet when the Ace came?
Waiting for an Ace to come is just bad playing.

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08-19-2014 , 10:45 AM

samo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

Keep the play simple.

Hero begins with 60 bbs effective, raises 5 bbs pre, gets 2 callers and flops top set. With a short stack, goal is to double-up which requires betting flop and turn, AI if you get 2 callers OTF. Charge them to catch-up.

As played, raise to $125.

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08-19-2014 , 10:53 AM

love24blght

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 178

i think best line here is 2 bet all 3streets 4 pure value obv.
as samo said --Charge them to catch-up.

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08-19-2014 , 11:00 AM

xXWARDRUMXx

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

ok in the hand i raised $150. villain called quickly. river was blank. shoved river. Villain calls with 87. should i have slowed down when 10 hit turn?

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08-19-2014 , 11:15 AM

Brudre21

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 258

OP there is no need to slow play this hand. You flopped top set, your goal is to extract value from weaker 2nd best hands. Most of the time the best way to do this is to fast play. The fact the V had a gutter is really a non factor. There will be times he hits and times he bricks. But you want him to make a poor call with 4 outs all day everyday.

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08-19-2014 , 11:53 AM

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DiggySmacks

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 25

This flop has to be fast played because it smashes our 2 callers ranges. 2pair, pair+draw. Im betting here just about 100% of the time and confident that I am getting action from at least 1 player. V ends up hitting his double gutter but you need to make him pay for it on the flop for all the times the turn is a blank and you get zero action when you bet. We need value.

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08-19-2014 , 07:14 PM

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xXWARDRUMXx

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

Thanks to all for their responses...

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