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2-5 nl with button straddle 2-5 nl with button straddle

10-21-2013 , 05:41 PM
Background: Hero has been at table for about 1 hour. Tough lineup to his left which includes all big stacks at the table. Player 4 to hero's left is the villain in the hand. He is a younger player who is noticeably better than the rest of the players at the table. He hasn't been 3-betting much if any up to this point but that's mostly because people are opting to limp in preflop rather than raise. He plays pots in position as the aggressor most of the time, he is winning pots without showdown and has amassed quite a stack. Hero decides to move to an open seat at the other end of the table. This puts hero 3 to the left of the young thinking player. After about 2 orbits the following hand ensues.

Hero in bb has 980, villian (young thinking player) in hijack covers, other player in hand isn't too important but he is playing with about 300 in front.

2-5 nl and button straddles to 10. sb folds, hero looks at KdKc and opens pot to 40, 2 folds, one caller, folds to villian who 3-bets to 110. Folds to hero who 4-bets to 275, caller in between folds, villian thinks and shoves. Hero??? 705 to call and win 1305.

I considers flatting the 3-bet as it accomplishes keeping my hand under represented, keeps in likely marginal holdings of the preflop caller. At this point I'm thinking 110 seems like the type of 3-bet that wants to see a flop multiway. So instead I decide to 4-bet because of my hand strength against a preflop flat and a young thinking players 3bet in position. Also, reraising seemed like a better option since I was likely going to see the flop 3 ways by flatting and I'm out of position against both players.

What do you guys think we can range villian on with his 5 bet shove? A buddy of mine says he folds this 85% of the time. What do you guys think?
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10-21-2013 , 11:03 PM
Interesting spot. Do you have a guess of how he probably perceives you?

I think I fold pretty comfortably here bc when you add up his line it should be AA almost always.

Smallish 3! thats never folding anything out - from a competent player - followed by a 5! jam...

More interesting is the spot you're in when he initially 3!'s. Like, he has to know its going 4 ways alot of the time right? Or did he specifically do it to induce knowing that a bb raise in a btn straddled pot is pretty strong to begin with?

I hate 4!'ing KK here but I also feel pretty ******ed flatting and going 4 ways with the nut bad position.
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10-21-2013 , 11:20 PM
I don't think you can fold that easily. If he's doing this with KK+ only then maybe, but you're looking at a situation where he squeezed and now possibly could be shoving wider than that. You're only a 3:1 dog vs. KK+. If you add anything else at all to that range then it's a call.
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10-22-2013 , 07:46 AM
If we give him every combo of AA, the ont combo of KK and half the combos of QQ:

(6/10*20%) + (1/10*50%) + (3/10*80%) = 41% equity. (Easy call.)

With one combo of AKs and 1/3 of the combos of QQ:

(6/10*20%) + (1/10*50%) + (2/10*80%) + (1/10*75%) = 40.5% equity. (Easy call.)

And with one AKs and no QQ:

(6/8*20%) + (1/8*50%) + (1/8*75%) = 29
5% equity. (Mumble goan sigh fold.)

So it really comes down to: can this villain ever make this play with QQ/AKs? If its even 20% of the time that he has QQ that he plays this way it's a call.
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10-22-2013 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Interesting spot. Do you have a guess of how he probably perceives you?
He is definitely the type of player to notice my tendencies. I had yet to 3 or 4 bet so he def is ranging me on strong range. He realized that I moved seats to get position on him and other big stacks. His all in consisted of looking at the pot, looking me in the eye, looking at the pot, looking at me... all in.
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10-22-2013 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by absherrj
He is definitely the type of player to notice my tendencies. I had yet to 3 or 4 bet so he def is ranging me on strong range. He realized that I moved seats to get position on him and other big stacks. His all in consisted of looking at the pot, looking me in the eye, looking at the pot, looking at me... all in.
With that body/eye language, I'm turbo mucking. Looks like he's trying to goad you into a call.
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