Hero ($500) regular in poker room and seen as solid, TAG late 20's male. Playing straight forward. Been card dead all day so haven't been involved in many pots. Up $100 from just raising in LP and c-betting.

V1 ($450) - UTG +1. fairly new to the table. No prior history. Seen limping and playing pretty passively so far. Bet a couple of flops but gave up when called down or saw some aggression.

V2 ($300) - middle position. ABC player, older early 50's player. Fit or fold...trying to see flops cheaply.

5 limpers and Hero checks in BB with Q2.

Flop ($30) 236

Hero checks, V1 bets out $20, middle position calls, folds around to hero who calls.

Turn ($90) J

Hero checks, V1 bets $40, V2 folds, Hero raises to $130....

What do you think so far with this play??

Pretty bad against anyone semicompetent, but if you have a read that villain is weak-tight then I guess it's ok.

Don't really like it since V1 is playing passively according to your description and he bet twice, even when the turn is an overcard after you called the flop. If he has 6x here or any 1 pair hand he's checking the turn and giving up. You really don't represent much other than 45 and J6 and even then you would most likely raise the flop with 45 to get value if you have a real hand. I would just fold flop here and wait for a better spot.

I like it. It looks like he's trying to get value from his 6x, 77 and 88 hands. He probably can't hand read well and you could of flopped a set or a straight.

This is the reason why I think it's probably fine here. Or at the very least, not horrible.

This was my reasoning for the way I played it concerning the particular villain....was trying to decide if this was a good move or just spewy from being card dead/not hitting any flops.

This move works best when three conditions are present 1) you flatted an open (suggesting to most SCs or small pocket pair) 2) your villain is weak-tight OR someone who thinks you're a fish and is familiar with the beluga whale theorem and 3) the turn is a total blank.

Maybe the second is present here, maybe. Not an optimal spot IMO, but ymmv.

Fold flop.

As played turn is meh worth a shot with a decent image I guess?

no way a passive player bets those hands on that turn

Probably both. On flop this is an easy fold OOP. Turn is fine. Not the most ideal of conditions but probably profitable turn raise.

Need a better read than what you gave.. Passive but seen stabbing at flops. I don't think it's worth it here and just give up otf

Not sure I like calling flop to bluff turn, I almost prefer x/r flop

You set him up to call $90 into $170 so I think the bet sizing is good here. This is a good play if you think that he will fold often enough. With you limping in the BB you could have 2 pair right now ... but what are you protecting against? Arag?

You indicated he folded to some aggression, which is good but people do reach their limit and eventually start to call these spots with more marginal holdings so that is a bit of a worry as well.

Overall I dont mind the spot ... You had a plan and very good board to do it with. It all comes down to your read on the opponent and whether he has a hand or not.

Did you plan on firing most Rivers as well? GL

Awful spew. If you're buying in for $400, you're not seen by any decent player as solid. Even if you had the rep you said, the villain doesn't know it.

He's getting almost 3:1 to call. He has position, so he'll get to decide what to do on the river after you have to act. If he's not thinking, your raise won't change his mind from calling with what he thinks is a good hand. If he is thinking, he'll call because you are so polarized between the nuts and air.

I'm not a fan of bluffing villains in a vacuum.

If you had a great read on his sizing tells and post flop tendencies then this could be a great bluff.

Looking at his turn sizing, I would say villain is weak and that a bluff should work a large percentage of the time but...

that depends on what type of villain we are facing. If he is level 0 or level 1 then he will just call down with some weird BS value hand (like K6) because he won't know what else to do. If he is a super station then he calls down. If he is a nit fish he could actually have a set here and is just playing it passively betting way too small...

so as always it just depends.

In a vacuum against typical LLSNL villains, I think the sizing tell on turn means we can blast him off the hand regardless of if our line makes sense or not.

You did indicate in your OP that you saw villain bet passively and then fold to aggression...

So, if that is indeed the case, your bluff line is fine...
however, I lean towards not liking it because it seems more or less kinda random.

When we bluff, we should have more confidence in our villain profiling and reads and hand histories...

Speaking for myself, Once in a blue moon I will get in trouble taking great bluff lines vs unknown players only to discover I just tried to bluff a super station About once a month or so I have to relearn this lesson (when my autopilot/reflexes get the best of me when my guard is down...)

food for thought

He bet 40 into 90 there's something to be said about that.

Well said

Villain called you with a 6 right? I think this is spew against an unknown at low stakes.