So basically the key to weak-tight tables is da redline. Open wide in LP, c-bet blablabla. Got it, OK.

.... but

Opening wide from LP means opening stuff like SCs . If the table is a bunch of shortstacks in $200-$400 range (40BB-80BB) then you don't have implied odds to play SCs. Then how can you open wide still in LP? Then you would be opening them purely for bluff as opposed to a mix of bluff/implied odds/value.

Should you still open wide in such conditions? Or should you cut your range in LP to whatever is profitable to play as a shortstack e.g. premiums, maybe KJo type face cards? No SCs, no PPs, no suited weak Aces?

P.S. I'm aware of "table change" option. Not interested.

Table dependent. It all comes down to whether or not they adjust. Can vary your opening raise to be smaller so you have more room post flop. I'm not raising anything that doesn't have playability and I'm being cautious once called but many of these players just don't adjust. If you start getting shoved on or CRAI OTF then you've gotta tighten back up obviously. And yeah, move tables ftw.

Consider hands that can win unimproved, rather than SCs, including a wide variety of aces.

Yes. With weak-tight villains your not raising for value, your raising to setup flop/turn bluffs because the weak-tight villains will fold too often. Pretty much by the definition of a weak tight villain if you bet flop and turn they are going to fold anything weaker then top pair good kicker and you don't get hands that strong very often. The value your hand has is just a backup.

The trick at low stakes if often separating the weak-tight from the weak-stationary as quickly as possible. The stationary ones will call over sized bets with any top pair, most middle pairs and often with worse, so you can't profitably bluff them off ever. You can crush them when you do have value though because they won't give up even if you show two pair+ every single time on the river.

Give me a range. You mean weak unsuited Aces or what?

Seriously game selection is crucial. You need to table change or go to another casino if you can. I don't mind playing at weak tight tables because isoing and cbetting is printing money. Your redline should be great here. And it's a nice, easy, low-variance way to make an hourly

But I refuse to play with shortstacks. If there are 3 at my table I will only keep playing if there are 1 or 2 nice marks. Any more than 3 and I'm out. I've been seated at tables didn't post my blind or play a hand because there where more than 3 SS, ask for table change immediately. Sometimes if there are more than 2 I will table change

I have a perhaps strange belief, call it faith even that any table is beatable. Some can be beat for more, some for less but all are beatable - at least so goes my faith. Are you saying that a table with too many shortstacks is unbeatable or that it's only marginally profitable? What if you're better at playing a shortstack (effective) than the shortstacks? Wouldn't that beat them for example?

Raise wide pre especially in position and Cbet a ton. Look for good cards to double barrel but fold to pressure and generally give up when called on flop unless they're so weak tight they're folding turn often. In that case double barrel a ton but don't triple barrel bluff. If they're that weak tight that you can get it heads up a lot and people aren't stacking off with less than TPTK or overpair, you can raise a lot of hands. Something like All Broadways, PPs, 65s+, 75s+ and sometimes wider

The key is that you are stealing a ton of small and medium pots but rarely winning big ones. You won't make a ton of money but you should still make a decent amount and swings should be small as its hard to make a strong hand in Holdem and these guys aren't playing a big pot without the nuts.

This is what is important. The only thing I'd add is how sticky people will be pf. If you make a raise and 5 people will call automatically, then the odds are very good that someone has a hand that will go to show down. They won't fold to a bluff because their hand is too strong (as QuadJ says, sometimes that is second pair). If they have 40BB, betting into them with air means they shouldn't be folding, so you make they play perfect against you.

The other element is most LLSNL players are horrible at bluffing. The flop comes Jxx and they bet. Then a king comes on the turn and they bet again. Finally, the FD hits on the river and they bet yet again. Sorry, nobody believes you were ahead all three streets. You need to tell a good story. Your villains didn't come to the poker room to fold. If you are running over the table, you will get called.

No such thing as a triple barrel bluff against a short stack, right? I mean how much do they really have left on the river if they start with 40bb? Even if you raise to 3bb, and only get one caller, unless it's a blind there's 9bb in the pot. You cbet for 5bb, they call, now there's 19bb in the pot, you double barrel for 14 bb, they call, now there's 47bb in the pot, and they only have 18bb left, giving them better than 3.5-to-1 on your shove, and given they are weak tight but called twice, they're not folding.

Soooo, I guess it's possible to do a triple barrel bluff with the right betsizes (especially if you just bet 1/2, 1/2, 1/2) against a short stack...but you're still right that it's a bad idea. If they're calling the turn, they're calling the river more than likely.

Ugh... I kinda hate these tables. It's like, You grind all-day making bluffs/cbets/light 3bets... and then it all gets erased the one time the that short stacking nit cold calls your 3bet for 1/3 his stack after limping in UTG... Zzz, well, looks like I can only win this pot if I flop the nuts.

Definitely money to be made at these types of tables, but you definitely have to watch your step. Where I'm from, the bad/weak/tight regs will play their really strong and really weak hands the same, except they will lead out OTR for like 1/5 pot when they have the nuts and c/c or c/f otherwise. Very frustrating to play against IMO.