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04-19-2015 , 05:52 AM

pooky604

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2/5 NL (Live)
Hero $800
Villain $480

Hero has AdKs in ep and opens to $25, 2 callers including villain in the bb.
($77) flop is Kh 2c 3c, hero bets $45, fold, bob raises to $160, hero?

Villain is a random passive fish, we don't have much history with him.

Thanks for the input.

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04-22-2015 , 08:17 AM

pooky604

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Not one reply? lol

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04-22-2015 , 08:56 AM

de4df1sh

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His range is likely sets and combo or flush draws that have alot of equity.

without any real reads just knowing that he is a random passive fish makes me err towards folding.

the c/r is super strong here and most players wont c/r a top pair type hand especially if they are passive fish.

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04-22-2015 , 09:51 AM

runlikeadonkey

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What makes you think he is loose?

If you define him as passive easy fold. AK is easy to get away from especially in this typical situation. As de4df1sh said V is usually repping sets or combo draws.

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04-22-2015 , 10:14 AM

answer20

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Set 2/3, KcXc, Ac4c/Ac5c, AA? (nah) ... This is his range. If you can't include random Kx/other flush draw hands you are never better than 55% to win here or basically drawing dead.

But you are getting 2.5 to 1 to call and see what he does on the Turn. The drawing dead hands are what concerns me here and we can still get out drawn on the River if we survive the Turn.

Can you take any sets out of his range? Probably not ... GL

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04-22-2015 , 10:34 AM

johnny_on_the_spot

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if he's a LP, i'm bet/folding every street

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04-22-2015 , 10:35 AM

de4df1sh

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Originally Posted by answer20

I don't think we need to call to evaluate a turn.

He bets turn probably 95% of the time

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04-22-2015 , 10:48 AM

Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by pooky604

Not one reply? lol

it's probably because this is a really tough spot (for most people).

You said he is a passive fish. He c/r'd you on the flop, so if you ask what a passive player is c/r'ing, it's better than top pair with a kicker weaker than yours. Also, fish usually play their hands face up. If they have a good hand, they make a big bet (or c/r).

So just going on this, I would fold.

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04-22-2015 , 11:17 AM

runlikeadonkey

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I wouldn't say this is a tough spot as much as a very very typical spot and reason why I like AK as it is easy to get away from particularly in this situation against a LP who raised. It's not a x/r but might as well be considered the same strength especially when he almost 4x raises you.

OP if you have any other background on this V that would make you change this then tell us. Otherwise it is a must fold.

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04-22-2015 , 12:27 PM

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de4df1sh

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Originally Posted by runlikeadonkey

It is in fact a c/r if villain is in BB and hero is in EP

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04-22-2015 , 12:31 PM

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Javanewt

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Fold without more information (he will raise draws or top pair). Passive player check/raising is never good.

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04-22-2015 , 12:50 PM

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timmay28

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w/o further info it's an ez fold in a multiway to that sizing by a passive villain

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04-22-2015 , 01:54 PM

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AintNoLimit

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Pretty big raise shows the fish loves his hand. Vs his overall range which may just bet sets and two pair, we are behind.

The flop hits our range perfectly and it doesnt slow him down a bit. This is bad for us for sure.

I fold.

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