Hand 1

V appears to be a reg, MAWG. I'm effective stack with ~900

Folds to Hero in EP who opens to 20 with KJ. Only V in BB calls.

(40) Flop 1097

BB checks, Hero bets 30, BB calls

(100) Turn 8, completes flush and puts 4 to a straight

BB checks, Hero bets 60, BB x/r to 170

Hero?

Hand 2

Same table as Hand 1. V is a MAWG rec player, wearing sunglasses, and effective stack at ~500

Folds to Hero in MP who opens to 20 with 78, CO and BB both call

(60) Flop 782

BB checks, Hero bets 35, CO raises to 140, BB folds.

Hero?

Hand 3

Different table later that night. V seems like a drunk old guy, spewy (grabs chips and bets without much thought to amount). V is effective stack with ~400

V limps UTG. 1 more limper. Hero in CO makes it 35 with AK. V calls, other limper folds.

(75) Flop K93r

V checks, Hero bets 55, V calls.

(185) Turn 9

V checks, Hero bets 95, V x/r to 220

Hero?

OP, please post one hand per thread. Multi hand threads tend to get few, and not very in-depth, responses. Also please include V's likely image of you.

With this type of threads, you'll mostly get responses on the level of:
H1, call turn, likely call river
H2, jam
H3, fold

Hand 1. Reg has a flush here too, if it's a little one and he's a goodreg he can get away from it. He isn't doing this with a straight.

I just call and pray for brick. Shipping in his face OTR if bricked. If has the nutflush we go broke here everytime. He is BB so he can have alot of 56 diamonds and dumbchit like that.

If the board pairs or the 4th diamond comes in you are likely not going to get in stacks in. He will probably check call on a board pair and check fold on a 4th diamond unless he has the ace.

But shipping now, he will likely fold most of his baby flushes.


Hand 2: We are OOP with top two, the board is connected and about 30% of the turns are going to complete a straight or a flush. Villain has only 300 and change behind so just ship it.

Expecting to see overplayed pocket 10s, and a set of 2's more often then a combo draw from villain though. Rec villains aren't playing combo draws aggressively usually.



Hand3: I feel like we explain this every week and it gets old man. Check middle pairing cards always. ALWAYS, unless you actually have the middle pairing card or a boat.

The middle pairing card is always better for the caller. Stop betting when it pairs. AK in single raised pots is not a 3 street hand unless the board runs out like this.

A(or K), 10, 6, 4, 4 rainbow.

If the board doesn't look like that then don't go for three streets with AK in cash games. In 3bet pots we are looking to get stacks in by the turn with 100bb's with top top so AK is still a two street hand in that instance.

In Hand 1/2 - I haven't been playing many hands since I've been card dead for 2-3 hours. Hand 1 - V probably views me as a competent rec or reg. Hand 2 - V has been getting up from table a lot, so not sure how aware he is.

Hand 3 - Table views me as TAG, but V is clueless. He's been at the table for 45 minutes, already rebought once after donk betting 2x pot on the turn with air and getting called. He keeps taking actions out of turn, slapping the table and then saying he didn't mean to check etc.

This is the kind of info that is needed in your OP and that makes it much better to have one hand per thread.

h1: cawl
h2: all in
h3: check turn

H1 - call turn, likely folding to value river sizing unimproved.

H2 - have $445 left, AI. I'd strongly consider folding pre from MP, though it is table dependent.

H3 - smaller flop and turn; ugh, he probably has a 9 with that x/r. I'd lean fold, though calling at this eff stack vs. described V probably not too bad.

On H1, what do you mean folding river unimproved? We made the 2nd nut flush on turn. This turn x/r seems like it's almost always with the A, and he either already has AQ, A2-A5 made nut flush, or naked A. Either way, feels like if I call here he probably fires again on river and I'm going to in a tough spot

Smaller because it is a dry/static board?

H1 ship. Getting stacked by Axdd anyway, get looked up plenty.
H2 what a dream spot to call. He's gonna blast off any turn and just ship or call off all in even on a few death cards.
H3 ship now, he's drunk. not folding, no money left.

If he bets the river, we have more information so I'd fold. Q-high flush usually slows down after a x/r call.

Keeps the opponent calling range wide on flop. 1/2 PSB on turn is ok, just large due to flop sizing.

H1 - consensus seems to be call/ship

H1...You cant possibly be serious. You want to call the turn check raise and fold to a river bet? I hate to be rude but how can you even post that on a poker strategy forum?

With these stack sizes, not reraising the turn is crazy talk, but calling the turn and then even considering folding the river with no serious change to the board (another diamond or board pairing) is complete insanity.

H2...Jam
H3...check the turn and avoid this spot

Then I must be insane to believe additional information is valuable.

If I flat call and he fires a blank river, does he have the nut flush or just bluffing with the Ad. Do you really learn anything?

Wow, this forum is usually nitty but this is next-level.

Folding the 2nd nut flush to a single x/r is insanely bad.

He wouldn't even be bluffing in this instance. He would fire the river again with the straight a lot of the time and he might just jam the river to get you off of a chop. Not saying that's the best play but lots of aggro guys would do it. There's just no way anyone should ever be folding this....but reraising the turn is the best play.

^this

If we are 300+ bb effective stacks, maybe I’ll entertain folding to a river jam, but I mean, come on...

Wayyyyyy too MUBSY to fold turn

To be clear, I was debating between reraising and calling a non diamond river, or just folding. Thinking about it after thought I made a mistake, so good to know everyone agrees.

Wait...you folded? You folded to the turn check raise?

Yes. Sorry, not sure I follow when you say he wouldn't even be bluffing if he would jam the river to get me off a chop. There's 3 diamonds on the board by the turn - are you saying he's just assuming I have zero flushes in my range?

I'm sure this thinking was 100% wrong and overthinking, but at the time my thinking was if I'm in the BB with the Ad blocker, the EP open only has KQ, KJ, QJ for made flushes, and probably wouldn't continue with QJ. So BB probably shoves a non-diamond river anyways knowing that. If BB is doing this in this spot only with his made nut flushes and offsuit Aces with the Ad, it seemed fairly close, and needed to have a plan for the river and decide if he had it or not and commit.

Its hard to make a flush in this game. You are the preflop raiser from EP and villain has the Ad so its very unlikely that you have the flush. A good player knows that. When you dont reraise the turn its even more unlikely that you have a flush because most people would reraise non nut flushes on the turn.

So, yes, a lot of good players would jam the river with Jx trying to get you to fold your Jx and he wouldnt be all that worried that you have a flush.

Please never fold a hand like this again.

H2 - consensus seems to be jam



H3 - seems like I should be checking behind turn 100%. AP mixed between call/fold.

Got it. Thanks, appreciate it. If I reraise and get called, am I calling a jam on non-diamond rivers? If he shoves over my reraise, am I calling?