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10-23-2017 , 07:13 AM

6bet me

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,885

$2/$5 at 6am playing 10-handed. Most people are tired regs that have been playing all night. Hero is $400 deep and everyone else has $500-$2000.

Hero is dealt A7cc in CO
MP makes it $20
HJ calls $20
Hero calls $20
SB calls $20
BB calls $20

Flop ($90, 5ways) is Kc 9h 4c

SB checks
BB checks
MP bets $70
HJ calls $70
Hero ??? (We have $380 behind)

I'm always confused in these kind of spots: when to fold, when to call and when to raise?

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10-23-2017 , 07:31 AM

Vagine

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 352

If you call, you would have a pot size bet left on the turn.

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10-23-2017 , 07:57 AM

3K_TOM17

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Raise as default, if you call here, and MP caught 2nd pair like QJo, QT etc on turn, he checks to you, what are you going to do?

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10-23-2017 , 08:03 AM

Medicchris

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Flop likely hits the range of MP or HJ. Likely misses the blinds. If you were last to act, a flat call makes sense. See a turn with 12 outs and go from there. With the blinds following you after this bet it changes the dynamic. I think you have to decide if you'll call a shove from one of the blinds, if so, you might as well be the one to shove. If not, folding is a good decision here to save yourself $70.

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10-23-2017 , 08:05 AM

3K_TOM17

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Originally Posted by Medicchris

, if so, you might as well be the one to shove. If not, folding is a good decision here to save yourself $70.
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I might as well buy in bigger stack and 3b with ace blocker preflop and go from there. With this stack size, GII on the flop as a default, folding is too weak.

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10-23-2017 , 08:33 AM

samo

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

As played, AI. Over card may be good + FD.

Pre - fold. The spot u find yourself in is b/c of the call. 80 bbs deep, and calling a 4 bbs raise with A7 is leaking money. GL!

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10-23-2017 , 09:56 AM

pocketzeroes

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This really depends a ton on MP... Any reads on MP’s opening range and range betting 3/4 pot into 5way action? I mean, if MP’s range is mostly AK, KQ, AA, KK, 99 (which it might be) - then opt to call. If MP can show up with hands like KTo, QQ, 9Ts (no clubs), then opt for raise to commit yourself. I think I’d probably just call in game bc I don’t think MP’s folding often, and I think HJ often has some of my outs.

Preflop - I think a call, fold, or 3bet can all have merit.

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10-23-2017 , 10:11 AM

TheKevin2

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Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 18

You have the nut flush draw with $230 already committed to the pot... this is an easy and automatic all in.

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10-23-2017 , 10:37 AM

sai1b0ats

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a clear fold pre.

otf, jam or call both have merit.

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10-23-2017 , 10:40 AM

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Avaritia

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Originally Posted by sai1b0ats

a clear fold pre.

otf, jam or call both have merit

+1, esp to bolded

In general the K high flops following a bet from the pfr are pretty bad to stuff on

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10-23-2017 , 11:39 AM

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3K_TOM17

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Originally Posted by sai1b0ats

a clear fold pre.

otf, jam or call both have merit.

Yes, unless you're playing deep stack yourself. I will go for 3b 70% of time instead of flatting...

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10-23-2017 , 12:11 PM

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sai1b0ats

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Originally Posted by 3K_TOM17

Yes, unless you're playing deep stack yourself. I will go for 3b 70% of time instead of flatting...

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yes clear fold pre due to 80bb stack and 4x open. raise & call become options as we get deeper.

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