Never. J10s would be nothing more than a bluff catcher in described hand. Pfr led into 8 people, the only hand we are ahead of is AKcc. I prolly peel one and fold to inevitable turn barrel...I mean unless he's a total spewer or drooler who cbets 100%, folding flop is probably correct, as nitty as that sounds.

I mean whatever we do on this board will arise suspicion bc it is so dry. It is again a board we should not be raising, but I think raising this board small for value is not as bad as the T55 board.

Like for example I would raise his lead on 1092 holding 22. Because we can rep combo draws so easily and also there are a lot of action killers ott.

All of this is villain/dynamic dependent. I mean against total stations I'm raising all day.

But yes we have position and he has a likely barreling hand, lets flat and let him barrel most turns.

Maybe I am a missing something but the argument against raising the 1055 flop with A5 bc opponent might fold overpair, yet heaven forbid raising J10 on a 1055 board bc obv opponent has overpair and we are in bad shape.
I am ignoring the fact that we lose to 5x with J10, but perhaps if we change it...
Say we are on button with A5hh. And we call pre with like 5 callers in between. Assume only the BB calls pre. If PFR bets into field and they fold to us, are we still flatting A5hh? And if we are, it seems like we should be raising J10hh as well.

Your point is certainly valid. Raising to turn TP into a semibluff may indeed be +EV if villains often fold overpairs. It's villain dependent, and I'd want to a good read that the PFR has a fold button before attempting that. Keep in mind that when we're discussing whether to bluff someone or not we're comparing it to the EV neutral option of folding, whereas when we're discussing whether to valueraise we're comparing it to the already +EV option of calling (well I guess in the JT case you could compare it to what you may deem as the +EV option of calling, but I would disagree that calling with JT is +EV here); it is entirely possible that a relatively unknown villain will fold overpairs to a raise often enough that valueraising would be less +EV than calling, but would not fold them often enough that a bluff would be +EV. But if you have a thorough read to the point that you know with certainty whether or not villain will continue with an overpair against your raise, then obviously you are correct - though keep in mind that in this hand, there are other players still to act behind you that could wake up with a 5

What you are talking about is turning a made hand into a bluff which is ill advised in llsnl. Basically the action you are recommending doesn't have to be J10, J10 = any two cards if we raise, bc the moment we raise we are turning our hand into a bluff.

Flatting with A5 is the most EV, because villain has a high chance of continuing on all turns. Basically, if we raise 1055, we give villain the one chance to get away from his hand. Will he fold? Maybe, maybe not. Will he barrel most turns if we flat flop? Yes. Even if our flat scared him, will he likely at least c/c turn? Yes.

I'm too lazy to make a hypothetical decision tree but flatting provides the most EV against not droolers. I mean you got an overpair and trips to fold, I'm not sure why I'm even arguing this.

And yes raising J10 would have gotten folds, but so would raising 72. The difference is J10 has value. So it should be used as a bluff catcher more than turned into a bluff, bc again that nets us more value.

Edit: didn't see NS's post but yea that