2/5 - made a move was it spewy?
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 273
Hero - 60 yr old TAG(at new table from earlier post)
Villain- asian reg in 30s very erratic,unpredictable,always trying to deceive,
in both ethical and ofttimes quasiethical ways(we have substantial history and he knows that I very rarely make moves)
effective stacks 400(I was a little short)
on to the hand
4 limpers, villain raises to 42 from button, hero decides to resqueeze to 135 from BB with 77, he calls fairly quickly
My thought process was that he was not very strong and despite the fact that he did not have odds to setmine I was not surprised at his call.
Flop A66r (295)
villain bets outofturn for 40(a very weird play even for him), I think this is a great flop for me and ship for 265 fairly quickly, he goes into a loong tank while asking me inane questions, such as I had you you have an ace, can I see a card and repeatedly will I show if he folds. I try to be non responsive but eventually weaken and agree to show if he folds. Meantime another reg calls the clock and with 30 sec left he calls with 88.
Appreciate any comments
Last edited by iluvsheesh; 06-06-2013 at 11:55 PM.
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 6,237
It looks like a decent move on the flop once you reraise preflop. That part is pretty questionable with a short stack, but if you have a read that villain is weak then fine. Having reraised preflop and with a bit less then PSB, you have to ship that flop or give up.
It sounds to me like villain got a read on you that you where weak also, and decided he couldn't fold for a less then PSB. Telling him you will show after badgering is probably bad, a lot of villains will take that as a sign your weak and want him to fold.
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 265
yeah by agreeing the obvious meaning is you want him to fold, which he probably took advantage of. At your casino does a bet out of turn stand? Because if it does, you really should have checked to let it stand and then either call and shove turn, or c/r flop.
Join Date: Aug 2010
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kick the other reg's ass in the parking lot outside....calling clock while he's not in hand is low imo
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When did other guy call the clock?? If u took over close to 10min or more I think it's ok to call the clock. Anyways if u 3bet pre, raise smaller, 3bet to 110 does the same and risks less. U said he's weak but not surprised he called, u have to be playing for stacks on a lot of flops (sometimes even this one) if that's ur read and u may even be able to size ur 3bet smaller to 90-100.
Join Date: Apr 2010
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4 limpers, villain raises to 42 from button, hero decides to resqueeze to 135 from BB with 77
That is a trainwreck for starters.
The flop shove was nice, however your demeanor after that gave it away. If ur gonna try to pull off plays like this, u have to back it up with your table presence. NEVER agree to show if they fold. That is why he called. Also, never look like you went into some shell----as it is indicative of bluffing. Look relaxed and not a care in the world whether he calls or not. Grin and tell him you dont have an ace. Then laugh. then tell him to get his money on in there and lets move on to the next hand, geeez. That will do much better than clamming up and then agreeing to show him your hand. Ugh.
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Agree with ANL on sizing being bad (if that's what you were going for...) and never agreeing to show.
As it played, the shove is good. V's call is terrible IMO. It's a stretch to call a 60 year old TAG's shove after a 3b with 88 on an A66 board even remotely good.
