Villain is a rock (or has been since I arrived at the table.) Maybe that's not totally accurate as I'd seen him limp-call quite a few hands over the last hour (usually folding to the raisers cbet or barrel.) He has ~225bb (most of which was accumulated before I arrived.) He's quiet, wearing sunglasses and has a hand stamp (meaning he had to show I.D. To get in the casino.)

Hero has been at the table for an hour and is the 'table captain.' I have been raising a lot of pots from LP and beating up on the limpers. Every time I raise (and even when I don't) I've been getting the 'Here we go again' or What, no $30 this time?' comments. I cover everyone already.

$2/$5 NLHE - Fallsview - 10 Handed

~225bb eff.

Hero in CO w/JTo
Villain calls 1bb, MP calls 1bb, Hero raises to 6bb, Villain calls 5bb, MP calls 5bb

Flop: Jc Tc Xx
19.5bb (3 Players) - Villain checks, MP checks, Hero bets 20bb, Villain raises to 40bb, MP folds, Hero?

I asked him, "How much do u have left?" before I acted.

Considering your image I think you go with it...he can put you on the flush draw as well. What is your VPIP live? early, mid and late if you could tell me? That is just because I am wondering how good players play live.

NH in my opinion.

It's going to suck when we ram into a set, but there are plenty of worse hands that can come along here.

Edit: As an exercise, I stoved top two here against villain's likely range (I assumed 2 and 4 for the blanks since they weren't provided) - QQ, sets, big draws, and AJ/KJ/QJ type hands, and we have like 70%+ equity.

EP - VPiP: 5 PFR: 5

MP - VPiP: 10 PFR: 7 3bet: 3

LP - VPiP: 30 PFR: 20 3bet: 5

...and I'm really tight from the blinds although I will 3bet players that I think are trying to iso fish pretty light (especially w/hands like AJ and KJ b/c they contain blockers as well as suited 1 gappers and such so I'm not always just 3betting my big pairs.)

BTW: These are total guesses (and I'd really have to think about this more.)

lol... hardly but thx

...also, I'm playing a lot of $2/$5 and a little $5/$10 these days so if ur wondering about $1/$2 u should play a little tighter as a good TAG style will guarantee profits (just never slowplay and value bet like a mo fo.)

You'll see some strange things, especially if it's late and on a weekend. The guys who have to get nudged by the dealer when it's their action (because they've been drinking for 16 hours and have passed out at the table) are my favorite.

small mistake (BB post BTW)

OK, thanks...I just notice you usually come up with the best comments from what I have seen and usually give me the best advice.

I don't really see the point here. You played the hand right, got it all-in good, won, what's the question?

vnh KUD. You know that 2pr, especially top 2pr with your image is going to basically be the nutz in the games you play at FW.

oh so wait, your flop flat call wasn't a slow play? you thought your 2 pair mighta been no good on the flop? 2 pair is practically the nuts on that flop. i like the way you played the hand though, it kinda trapped him into thinking his top pair (if he even had that good of a hand lol) was good.

ok so i am going to grunch this. i would flat the flop with the intention of shoving over his (usually inevitable) turn lead. the only thing you can possibly be afraid of is JJJ, TTT and XXX. way too small of a range for sure. on a club...meh would call the turn or check it back if checked to and then see river action.

now going to open first spoiler...cool. now going to open second spoiler...cool. now third spoiler...yay!! nice 2k+ pot. the only thing you need to be truly worried about is that he is a true "rock" and thus could have XXX here most of the time. however, given his limp/call history and your very aggressive image i dont think there is any other way to play the hand. you certainly can't flat the turn.

What are the reasons why you didnt 4bet the flop? Since the board is so draw heavy?

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225bb effective - 6bb pre-flop - 40bb OTF - 140bb OTT = 39bb != 0

Oh ... and if villain is a rock (and very likely stacked off 200bb+ with top pair) then we don't share the same definition of what a rock is.

Maybe he's a rock who is very bad at adjusting to aggro players tho ...

Ur right my math (account) was off (I posted it on my BB on my way home from the casino.)

PF: (6bb * 3) + 1.5bb = 19.5bb
Flop: 20bb + 40bb + 20bb = 80bb
Turn: 40bb + 179bb + 139bb = 358bb
Total: 457.5bb

I made a mistake when I posted the original HH then I made a mistake when I corrected my mistake lol.

NITfish stacking off super deep with TPGK - super standard.

nh wp

I think I thought he was 'a rock' because he was quiet and didn't play too many hands but I did kinda preface that thought by saying that he did limp-call quite a bit.

...and I think the whole table was having trouble adjusting (as is normally the case lol.) I also think my 'stack size question' put me on a draw in his mind. Maybe he had queens or kings and thought he was slowplaying me?

Thats what I put him on KK/QQ since he is a rock they cant raise preflop or else they lose action since...........well because hes a rock. The other thing about "rocks" is they tend to overplay AA/KK/QQ when the board gets ugly or its clear that they are behind..............seen it many times.

Why didnt you just try and get it in on the flop?

With his min-crai I really didn't put him on a draw. In retrospect I probably should have just stuck it in on the flop as I actually broke my own rule about slowplaying. I figured if a blank came on the turn I'd get the rest of his stack (but an action killer could have came just as easily.) I was also a little worried about losing him if I came back over the top on the flop and I wanted him to put a little more money in the pot first.

Generally asking someone how much they have is weakness. Not sure if he knew that or not. I 3ball the flop all day. Nothing overly huge, repop to like 75-85bb to leave him some room to stack. If the board was a tad bit drier then I am ok with the flat (sort of). I have learned to not play around so much on boards like this. Tends to get me in trouble, I think you know this already though.. The line you took did help him to stack off assuming it wasnt a cooler (2p v 2p). I bet when you saw the river all you could say was "eff my life" until he mucked.

Ya except that he looked more upset about it then I did lol

I wouldn't be surprised if he had Kings and was slowplaying them thinking they were a made hand and he was going to use your aggressiveness against you.

I've been burned so many times w/ top2pair that I like to see what the turn brings. That Ace would have been an action killer if you didn't get all in prior, but the X pairing on the turn or a scare card coming could save you some cash if all the money is going in from the villain either way.

far too many draws on the flop to flat imo.

We must have a good reason to believe that villain will stack off with top pair / overpair to stack off 200bb+.