Early on in a Friday night session, my first time at this casino.

V: 40ish Asian man, 400ish deep. Raises more than most, seems aware of some concepts and confident, but is doing the "I never have a hand" whiny Asian thing after folding for like 2 orbits.

H: 30's honky. Playing this table for an hour or so, haven't shown down a hand but have raised 4 times pre, c/f twice and win with cbets twice, the two Cbet hands were the larger pots. Up to 600ish.

Hand:

V limps utg+1, 1 more limp, I make it 35 with black 99 in CO. V calls, all others fold, HU to flop:

($75) 358ss

V checks, I bet $50, he thinks for 15 seconds and min raises to $100. I think about a minute and call.

($275) 3584ss (red 4)

V almost instantly bets $200, leaving $125 or so behind.

So the min check raise OTF used to scare the balls out of me, but I've stopped folding so much (hopefully not turning into too much of a station). I called the flop cause it's pretty drawy and he could be doing this with a lot, and I thought a raise here isn't great for a couple reasons but I'm open to ideas.

My biggest thought is that his turn bet makes little sense in conjunction with a flop mini CR. Nowadays I fall back on "that makes no sense so I call", but this one was tough to pull the trigger on.

Do you think he's c/r'ing with A8 here? I'm folding this flop a large % of the time. His raise size indicates he's trying to get all your money in the pot by the river with relative ease. Fold the flop and look for a better spot.

As played on the turn I still fold. the straight draw just got there. The only thing we beat is a flush draw w/ 2 overs and that still gets there 28% of the time. Let this one go.

you still have a very slight equity edge over hands that get here, assuming his range is spades and overs (you block the 9 tho), but sets are an immediate danger and no redraws, and of course the straight got there, but mid 40s Asian men have money and gambling problems so it's very close...

I really don't mind re-raising the flop though because that flop is so drawy and you can price him out

looks like a tough spot - i rarely see them min raise flush draws or bare 8's in live.

Looks like some sort of flopped nuts who is trying to get value.

Asians usually over play top pairs / flush draws and raise a lot more than min. Min raise from a fish is almost always nutted - I don't think you are good here.

Raise flop. I think this type of player shows up with 8x often enough to get it in on the flop. He is never limping pre flop with any PP that is higher than 99, since you said that he 'raises more often than most.' If he flopped a set, so be it. But I'm guessing he is going to play J8, the same way...

Ok maybe a flop 3! was the way to go? I felt like I didn't quite yet want to commit stacks there against what was IMO super strength or weakness, no in between. My thinking could be way off here.

But now the $200 bet. This just makes abs no sense to me. Waaaay higher than your average 2/5 player would bet with a set, so the flush draw or some other bluff now looks likely.

I tanked for 2 minutes before deciding, it was the thinnest spot of the weekend for me.

Btw I was more than pleased to see how bad the players there are. Every table I sat at had 3-4 grinders with iPods, hoodies, etc, and they were all god awful.

Nice hand, now get it in on the turn. I think he has way more FDs than sets, and if he's bad enough to l/c pre with 67, then we'll get our money back soon enough.

Game flow is like...he sees you cbet / take it down. He prolly puts you on AK / overs that whiffed. When you tank & flat, he sees your hand as 99-JJ or over with a FD. His turbo lead OTT is usually a bluff, esp after a turbo ch/r.

He'd prolly open 88 instead of l/c, so sets are narrowed to 33 or 55. Again, even 67s is only 4 combos.

Pile and be happy about it, imo

uhhhh this a tough one. Would need more V info. River min raises scare me, flop min raises are "see where I'm at" raises some of the time, especially on a dripping wet board. I feel if this V had a made hand he would try to protect it a little more. This is really close to me and I would need more info on V but there are plenty of Vs where I'm stacking here and plenty more where I probably fold. Turn wasn't that great brought in straight and possible 2pr that could make sense with a limp call from an EP fish. The betting out fast is weighted towards bluffing. Trying to make himself look strong when indeed he is not.

If I think V is spazzing just call flop and let him hang himself. If you think V has a ton of semi-bluff, flush draws, straight draws jam flop and put the pressure on him.

For some reason I saw zero strength in his min raise, and my plan was to let him hang himself on the turn. I got what I was asking for, and I really think his big turn bet is just never value.

All that lead to why I'm frustrated about my play. I got what I asked for, then didn't pull the trigger. I folded and he triumphantly slammed down QTo for a pretty random wtf. Read and plan was right, looks like I'm a puss.

FOLD FLOP LIKE A LITTLE GIRL

Lol at whoever says fold this flop

OP it's either shove or fold here , if you don't believe him just ship it in, they have random BS here a ton

go with your read.... I play there a lot, describe the asian? what did he look like?

oh nvm you posted results, yeah dude you gotta stick with your plan but the spot sucks, can't blame you for folding ... it's hard to put your money with your read sometimes

call flop and see what he does on turn. folding turn as played. you can't be results oriented here. you will be up against TT, JJ, a set or two pairs too often to stack off on turn.

since villain showed a bluff, you should be able to adjust in the future. but in general you should fold turn here. with QQ+ i can see a stackoff, but 99 is the smallest overpair

min raises on flop espeically min check raises are villain dependent. some do it with the nuts, some do it with TPTK/overpairs, and some do it with TP, and some do it with a draw. some do a combination of all of them. which is why you have to call flop (getting great odds) and reevaluate turn