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2/5 lite value shove OTT 2/5 lite value shove OTT

12-20-2018 , 02:06 AM
2/5 effective 350. 9 handed.
Utg (1k) weak/passive limps.
Mp (600) weak/passive limps.
HJ (800) weak/passive limps.
Hero BUT (600) (nit/TAG image) AJcc raises to 35.
BB (350) tilting? Loose/passive calls.
MP calls.
HJ calls.
(140) Flop J85hdd
X x x hero bets 100. BB calls. Fold fold.
(340) Turn Qc
X hero bets 220 all in.

Line check pls and TY
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12-20-2018 , 02:15 AM
Cool
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12-20-2018 , 02:37 AM
Imo Id better a little more pf. And ap gj
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12-20-2018 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by adrianpk
Imo Id better a little more pf. And ap gj


I default 5x+1 what is your default?
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12-20-2018 , 02:47 AM
Depending on game. 3 weak passive players 40+$
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12-20-2018 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by adrianpk
Depending on game. 3 weak passive players 40+$

6x+1?

(I like to apply a formula so I don’t give sizing tells based on my holding)
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12-20-2018 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
(I like to apply a formula so I don’t give sizing tells based on my holding)
Lol. This is an extremely irrelevant strategy and giant misconception in llsnl. I promise no one is paying enough attention to this and even if you varied perfectly between strong and weak it's still appear random. I'm speaking within a normal range of sizing. If you make it 35 with 89dd and 135 with AA someone may notice.
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12-20-2018 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wait
Lol. This is an extremely irrelevant strategy and giant misconception in llsnl. I promise no one is paying enough attention to this and even if you varied perfectly between strong and weak it's still appear random. I'm speaking within a normal range of sizing. If you make it 35 with 89dd and 135 with AA someone may notice.


7x+1?
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12-20-2018 , 09:06 AM
Seems fine.
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12-20-2018 , 09:29 AM
Played exactly like I would play it.
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12-20-2018 , 09:58 AM
Preflop sizing tells are real.

Stick to your formula. More than few regs will definitely pick up on sizing tells if your at all active. Can't remember last session where I didn't pick up on a sizing tell.
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12-20-2018 , 10:00 AM
As played more than fine.
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12-20-2018 , 02:39 PM
Seems standard. We have to be a good amount deeper to consider checking turn.
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12-20-2018 , 02:42 PM
Other than calling it "value" seems OK. Title should really be "2/5 turn mp into a bluff shove OTT"
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12-20-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Other than calling it "value" seems OK. Title should really be "2/5 turn mp into a bluff shove OTT"
Its not a bluff. Its for value.
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12-20-2018 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Other than calling it "value" seems OK. Title should really be "2/5 turn mp into a bluff shove OTT"
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Its not a bluff. Its for value.
It's prob just a best option play. Not every action falls clearly under value/bluff and sometimes the language can be too polarizing when it comes to talking strategy.
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12-20-2018 , 07:38 PM
I think hero has the best hand. So hes betting for value. I'm not sure what the debate is.
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12-20-2018 , 07:46 PM
Umm check turn wtf is everyone talking about. T9/QT gets there. There’s more than just flush draws in his range
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12-20-2018 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I think hero has the best hand. So hes betting for value. I'm not sure what the debate is.
+1. Super standard. GJ, WP OP.
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12-20-2018 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Umm check turn wtf is everyone talking about. T9/QT gets there. There’s more than just flush draws in his range
If he called $35 with QT or T9, good for him. I'm jamming on him and whatever happens, happens
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12-20-2018 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wait
Lol. This is an extremely irrelevant strategy and giant misconception in llsnl. I promise no one is paying enough attention to this and even if you varied perfectly between strong and weak it's still appear random. I'm speaking within a normal range of sizing. If you make it 35 with 89dd and 135 with AA someone may notice.
I wouldn't say no one, but only observant regulars and those should be few with decent table selection. As long as someone, who is capable of 3betting light is behind me, I would keep my sizing consistent, otherwise I would go max exploit.
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