It's surprising that you recognized that there would likely be a raise behind had you joined the Preflop limp fest. Had you limped and there been a raise, this is a great spot for a BIG squeeze play, in the event that the 2 opening limpers simply call.

Good opportunity to pick up an easy 20 BBs without seeing a Flop.

Use a suited connector! U already have coverage on QJ boards

I really disagree hard with this. This would be a really bad spot for a 3! squeeze.

Agreed.

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Which part is surprising? Or are you saying that given this was likely you are surprised I didn't try to limp then squeeze? I agree with others that squeezing here with QJo seems like clicking buttons. The two players to my immediate left would be raising mostly value and may call in position. The two players in the blinds were the more LAG players but if they raise from the blind into that many limpers they will be sizing up to 40+ and I'll have to 3 bet a large portion of my stack with action behind with QJo hoping they are light... why is this good again? It may have worked this time given results but in general it seems like spew.

If it were that easy I would have played several pots before this one. I wasn't getting anything. This was the first reasonable hand that limped to us in about 30 mins. I only played 92 mins total this session and got maybe 4 good starting hands. If I turn down spots like this my VPIP will be uber nit and my action will suffer. My action still did suffer when I finally got AA but that's another story.

Villain leading the turn for $100 means that you may very well face a slightly less than pot sized all in on the river with a very tough decision to make.

As others have pointed out, his preflop play makes AQ, KK, AA very unlikely.

Calling his donk bet on both flop and turn has kept his full range of good, great, draw, and bluff hands in his range.

I think this might be a good spot to try a freeze play with a $100 min raise on the turn planning to fold to any more action besides a call and tiny donk on the river.

I had never even heard of a freeze play until I just read about in on SSNLHE, and it is possible that I am not applying it right. But a min raise freezes villain’s action causing him to fold the worst bluffs (avoiding a hero call decision by you on a blank river), likely gets weak pair and draw hands to call then check most rivers that miss (again, saving you from a big decision on the river), or he goes all in and you happily fold saving $ vs calling the turn only to call more (or in your case try to value bet more in OP) on the river.

Your stack size works for you in this instance because you are clearly “committing” to this pot, and he will proceed with extreme caution unless he has a monster to which you easily fold without regret if he jams.

You are proposing raising turn to fold out his bluffs and make the hand easier. Would you rather make the hand easier or more profitable? If he finds a triple barrel maybe he wins the hand but being willing to take the more difficult route to maximize profit is better than folding out his bluffs to take down a smaller pot IMO. We have the opposite goals in mind so our actions will be different. You want to limit losses while I'm looking to maximize gains.

Another thing for picking off rivers in multiway pots c0rnbr34d, remember that if they are betting smaller on the river and you suspect you’re good, you only have to be right one in three times or so (depending on the math to break even).
I used to assume a person was bluffing sometimes and fold my 22-55/Ace high hands, only to see enough hands flipped by dummies who are proud of themselves for stealing $50-100 bucks. Now I call when I’m confident I’m ahead and I’m right easily over half the time. I picked off a half dozen of these last session and easily won a few hundred bucks but doing so. It also has the effect of making your V’s check marginal strength hands in spots that they should often bet because they’re afraid of getting picked off.
It’s just another step to controlling bets/bet sizing in more hands imo and it’s pretty awesome when it works well and you see it change table dynamics.

Because the typical opponents at $2/$5 will want to raise a bunch of limpers in position. If the early limpers simply call, then you have a green light to squeeze big in the face of likely weakness. The initial raiser will then have to fold a majority of their range VS a limp/huge 4-bet.

It’s a limp/3!.
You will likely be OOP with a hand that doesn’t play well in a 3! pot or OOP.
Sounds like an FPS recipe for spew to me.

FPS stew. Featured in your next Martha Stewart cookbook.

+100 - In general and also in this particular case my limp raise would be more convincing from EP. From the HJ with two limpers already in front it looks like what it is. Squeezing a marginal hand. If there was a maniac right behind me that would be different. On top of all that we still need to someone guess correctly that they aren't raising a real hand that can call or 4 bet. As played we can still get 3 bet and fold easily. And the next time we raise with the goods it wont be the first time we've raised in 30-40 minutes.

Interesting way to think about poker.

I kinda like it

$110 OTR is best, you have no bluffs...


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lol and lol

Our image is tight/passive... We just opened our first hand, & then called a lead OTF with 2 players behind yet to act. I can think of JhTh & 9hTh as the only air we get to the river with. The IQ is low with this one...


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Teach us please.

c0rnBr34d really botched this one clearly. Please tell us what he should have done. I really want to learn from you and all the IQ you have to spare.