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03-03-2018 , 11:36 AM
2/5 capped game, lively table.
Villain 1 is loose asian with $400 on his third buy in
Villain 2 is solid aggro with $800
Hero is relatively new at the table--raised three hands in a row with premiums so might look a little loose...one showdown with JJ on kj5k9 board
Hero has $650 behind

OTTH

I raise with AA UTG to $20
Villain 1 calls in the CO
Villain 2 raises to $110 in SB

Hero tanks, raises to $350..?


1. Did I raise too much? In hindsight, I like a four bet to $240-$260, leaving myself with $390 behind and getting it in on the flop/turn. Sometimes I flat in position to a large three bet but I don't want to see a flop three handed.

Would appreciate your take on my line and suggestions on sizing.
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03-03-2018 , 11:44 AM
What’s your 4bet range here? Does it include AK? If not, then I like a call here 130bb deep. Otherwise villain can play perfectly against you. And even if you just call, you’re still only 2 bets away from all in.

But if you’re 4betting, I think you should make it smaller. I like the range you suggested: ~$250. You want a call after all.


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03-03-2018 , 11:52 AM
I guess it depends on his range in this spot and how comfortable you are postflop against this specific opponent, I like your 4 bet sizing to $240-260 like you said , makes it much easier to gii on flops, if you flat his 3bet, you'll be put in many difficult decisions on different textured boards especially if he has a wide 3betting range and is a solid aggro, hope this helps
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03-03-2018 , 12:38 PM
Also, I could be wrong, but I think you *want* villain 1 to come along with his loose calling range. He’s not going to outflop you very often and that’s an extra $90. Plus, a call from villain 1 makes the stack-to-flop ratio better for aces against both players.


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03-03-2018 , 01:57 PM
The 4-bet is WAY too big given effective stack; you came in your pants here. Just make it like $225 and give villain some illusion of fold equity, or tempt a call from a hand like AJs/KQs.
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03-03-2018 , 02:58 PM
I like a flat pf in this situation after the 3 bet. You're not up against AK that often where you have to worry about them missing the flop. So you can stack KK or QQ on the flop fairly easily.
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03-03-2018 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
I like a flat pf in this situation after the 3 bet. You're not up against AK that often where you have to worry about them missing the flop. So you can stack KK or QQ on the flop fairly easily.
I'd like this better if he didn't have the active imagine. Especially new to the table if these guys don't know you. When solid players call 3-bets it looks scary. When typical live donks do it their range is the same as their whole UTG raising range, which for many live players is far too loose. With an active image I'd 4-bet it and let the guy think he can jam his KK/QQ/AK over top of the 4-bet. Plus if he is making a move with low cards I don't want to give him a look at the flop without charging, because he's going to put us on a JJ type hand anyways, so if he outflops us he's going to play well against us.

Like others have said, your sizing is a bit too large. Make it $250-$275 and see what happens.
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03-03-2018 , 06:02 PM
$230 is good. Shoving would've been better than the size you chose.
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03-03-2018 , 08:15 PM
you deff did the right thing... I mean depending on your bankroll.... I would always rather just take down $120ish pre with 100% best hand then risk a 2 pair set lose your entire stack.... Also depends how deep you are to if you call and wanna try and get more outta em risker play but you can see if hes gonna C bet (also depends on your villin if you think 90% of the time hes gonna bet on most flops then just call it, and then shove there) funny I was playing at parx a few years back I reamber I similar hand I had AA and was button 6 ppl call $30 I raise huge like $300 1 dude calls with F''ing ac 9c flop all clubs he shoved. I really did fold haha and he showed me bc I showed the AA.... so there you go take down the pot there its deff the grinder play!
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03-05-2018 , 03:04 AM
If you are making a play dependent on your bankroll you should go for racks,as played I like a 4! to $235-$255 and shove all nome superconnected flops when checked to.
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03-05-2018 , 03:28 AM
I definitely 4bet here, probably make it $285 and would size the same with AK.
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03-05-2018 , 04:10 AM
We raise utg and a solid player 3bets from the SB, his range should be insanely strong here, regardless of your image. If we were HU here i would just rip it in everytime and hope we've coolered him.

However, we want to get some of that juicy loose asian money in there. You say you don't want to be 3handed to the flop, but for me that actually would be the goal in this hand. Yes, it's higer variance, but our EV increases soooo much with every dollar he puts into the pot. So unless you expect him to call a min4bet, flatting here is the way to go imo.
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03-05-2018 , 04:20 AM
jam or flat pre, this sizing is horrendous
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03-05-2018 , 04:25 AM
One of the rare occasions where i'd flat just because your range is 100% undeniably no BS strong. While V2 may also be strong, there is room for him to 3bet bluff here with the asian in between, especially if he perceives your UTG range to include any pocket pair. By calling you suddenly go from KK/AA to 22-JJ and maybe even some suited aces in there. So if he has like QQ he'll 100% ship any safe flop. Hell he may even flop a draw if he's being loose and just decide to jam. I could see QQ folding pretty easily here to a 4bet.
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03-05-2018 , 11:17 AM
Love flatting in this spot. Keep in the loose BTN, have super underrepresented hand vs agro player. What a dream situation.
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03-05-2018 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by adam levine
If you are making a play dependent on your bankroll you should... maybe not play at this level.
FYP
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