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Old 04-13-2014, 01:19 AM   #1
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2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

2/5 at Asian casino on Saturday night. Hero sat down two orbits ago and general feel of the table is very loose and gambolly. Main villain however is mid 20s, white (most likely 'murican) and looks reggy. He probably sees me as competent but I'm not sure. Other than him, the game is basically composed of rich businessmen. On almost every board someone bets out and stacking off with top pair seems relatively standard.

Hero is SB, 580 effective
3 limpers, button (main villain) raises to 30
Hero (SB) flats with KQ, all limpers call.
Pot 150
Flop KQT
I check because I'm fairly certain one of the businessmen will bet and will be willing to get it in with any king, and since many turns kill my action I would rather get it in now than bet and have one or more of them just call.
Second limper bets out 25 (lol), fold, button raises to 110.
Hero?
It's a gross spot bc if villain sees me as at all competent is he getting anything in worse here? Making it 250 to go just seems ridic strong and I'm pretty much overrepping my hand. Thoughts here and on flop check appreciated.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:25 AM   #2
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Re: 2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

I can't find a fold. In these situations the lead isn't really even a bet, so villain isn't repping any more strength than he would have if it was checked to him and he lead for 100 or w/e

We can discount KK, QQ since we have blockers. AK, JJ, and TT all make strong bets on this flop and we're ahead of a lot of that. However if we call there are a lot of turn cards that we don't like, so you may just have to raise and get it in. You aren't way ahead of anything but TT and AJ are the only hands that crush you. I would have donked flop though fwiw. Interesting hand, looking forward to people telling me why my analysis is wrong
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:34 AM   #3
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Re: 2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

Villain has AA or AK...gii
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Old 04-13-2014, 07:10 AM   #4
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Re: 2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

Flop lead out.
AP: call.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:58 AM   #5
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Flop lead out.
AP: call.
If you lead and get raised, are you flatting or 3 betting? We should likely do the same thing as villains range is about the as it would be in that situation.
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:19 AM   #6
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Re: 2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

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Flop lead out.
AP: call.
+1

In this scenerio I'm willing to gii by the table dynamics you provided us with.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:51 PM   #7
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Re: 2/5-KQ on a tricky flop

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Flop lead out.
AP: call.
How can we just call?

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+1

In this scenerio I'm willing to gii by the table dynamics you provided us with.
Against this particular player though? Raising here just looks so strong and flatting is so awkward
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