2/5 at Borgata. First 2/5 session here so I don't know the player pool, or even any general info about Borgata 2/5. Hero's first hand at the table. I post in the CO. Obviously no reads. Villain is on the button. Villain has about 600 and is a middle aged white guy. Effective stacks 500.

Pre-flop: (7)
MP limps. I have KK in the CO and raise to 25.
Button flats. Limper calls.

Flop: (80)
JT3 rainbow. MP checks I bet 50. Button raises to 125. MP folds.
I think villain can have a slow played overpair, JT, 33, KQ, 89, maybe AJ or worse and he's "figuring out where he's at?" and then possibly some air. I discounted 1010 and JJ because I think they probably just flat my c-bet on the rainbow board with these stack sizes. JT is discounted a bit as well I think.

Against his range I decide to shove. Is anyone folding to the raise? Is this a flat/reevaluate? I had an SPR of about 6, which confuses me, as I'm not sure if that is a size where we want to get it in or not...

Thanks

SPR of 6 is not when you wana gii...you have to have something just by looking at him. Is he an old guy with his chips stacked neatly in piles of 10 with his arms crossed wearing a military cap with a white beard, or an asian with headphones and a hoody shuffling his chips.

I would have bet $75 on the flop but as played I probably just shove too, or 3b to $235 and shove any turn card since it will commit V and he will have a hard time folding Jx to such a small re-raise. If V flopped a set he's getting your stack anyway.

I mentioned Villain was a middle aged white guy. Chip stack was mildly messy but mostly just completely normal looking.

Shoving is a fine play. I don't mind calling allowing V to barrel with Jx.

Vs a virtual u known i just think shoving is the best line. Sure some hands flopped u just about dead but I think there are plenty of other worse hands in his range. Not to mention we have no clue if he has any spasz factor or not.

I like the shove. It's our first hand at the table, it looks bluffy/spewy. It's easy for an opponent to put us on AK.

FWIW...Instead of betting $50 on the flop, make a full pot sized bet. It makes it much easier to get stacks in by the river, regardless of what V does.

Really?

The board is rainbow and we block the **** out of KQ.

With JT 2-pair definitely possible, his better value range isn't that thin.

He doesn't have QQ a lot.

Do we think he raises top pair a lot? And stacks off with it? We're readless.

We're pretty deep on the flop (I don't like SPR as a concept, but SPR is 6).

We've committed well < 20% of our chips.

I dunno, I don't think I'm 3-betting/stacking off on the flop.

Why don't you think calling or folding are better options?

why is that typical Asian is a bluffing and not have monster hand when they raise??? lmao

because in general they play more aggressive. I didn't mean to offend you, it's just being able to look at a player and, without any other reads or info, try to put them into a specific category. It's not necessarily a bluff, but also playing TPGK more aggressive than necessary.

I don't mind calling. It's doubtful V is raising a draw here and it's not too often a random middle aged guy is raising flop with AJ QJ. I supposed it could be a total bluff because that's what all the "books" say to do every once in awhile. I think V is raising us on the flop with JJ TT 33 JT which obv has us crushed. I think if we shove we aren't getting called by AJ QJ (but not 100% sure). They more I think about it the more I like just call and either let V barrel with air or keep the pot small when he does show up with a set. I just think shoving otf is overplaying our hand.

Button should be 3b TT/JJ enough that we can discount those. Sure JT is possible but he probably raises that a lot more since it's vulnerable to AK/AQ/KQ/overpairs with action-killing turn cards and he's going to want to set up a turn shove. If he has 33 then good for him we're gonna pay him off anyway if the turn bricks. OP says we are 500 effective and I'm just never folding an overpair here for 100bb when most of his range is Jx or a straight draw trying to buy a free turn card when hero checks (assuming hero just calls).

Someone else said we should let V barrel the turn. How is V going to barrel into us when we are OOP since he's on the button? I think V checks all Jx back on the turn when hero calls a flop raise. So are we checking turn or leading if we call? What's the plan for A/Q/9/8/7 turn cards, all of which are bad for hero against V's perceived range?

Betting more on the flop would make the stack sizes less awkward facing a raise. This is hero's first hand at the table, nobody is going to assume he has an overpair because what are the chances he was dealt QQ+ on his first hand?

Thanks for the advice guys.

yeah he isn't folding. how did the board run out, in case you flatted the 125

Board ran out 9 of diamonds (which made KQ) and the river was a deuce. Turn brought a diamond draw that bricked the river.