Villain (BB): 30s white guy, aggressive reg who plays 5/10 ($950)
Hero (MP): mid 20s Asian, TAG image ($1300)

Hero opens $20 with KK. Fish on BTN calls and BB calls.

Flop: T73 ($57)

Checked to hero who bets $40. BTN folds and villain makes it $120. Hero calls.

Turn: 3 ($297)

Villain bets $230. Hero calls.

River: 4 ($757)

Villain shoves for $580. Hero ???

This guy is aggro. I played some 1/3 with him before and he opened Q6s in MP and somehow called my 3 bet. Maybe it was cause he doesn't take 1/3 seriously. Who knows. But that goes to show this guy can click buttons. I block backdoor clubs with the K. But on the other hand, I'm not sure he doesn't slowplay sets. He also probably squeezes TT sometimes to try to isolate the fish. The 3 kills some flopped set combos. So asides from boats he has 65s for value which he might squeeze pre sometimes but perhaps not so much with the fish on the BTN. Not in love with the spot for almost 200bbs in a single raised pot but I can't fold right?

In my game, no, you can't fold. You feel stupid when they have a set, but it's TP too often. It's still a profitable call.

River is an exploitable fold. Villain isn't barrelling off here light if he's good on such a blank run out, I expect to see 3x or a set more than 89s or other random junk.

Not sure about exploitable fold. Our range OTR should be quads/77/1010 and something like J10+, JJ+. From a theory pov, you have to pick some hands you want to fold. If anything, 10x is a better bluff-catcher than KxKc here (esp without straight draw blocker/club blocker) because we block TT, so his value range is even more narrow.

Not saying that this is a mandatory call, just something to think about and just prob talking out loud lol

I haven't run this situation but I think occasionally beating JJ/QQ makes K better, but I'm definitely not positive as they check/raise a small % on this flop and bet turn a small % of that % - but TT is less combos but reraises more often. I dunno, but I'd say it's close

I think aggro white dude 3b JJ/QQ often, and yeah doesn't x/r both flop and turn at a high frequency if he does choose to flat. Then shove river. So yeah combos are heavily discounted, but who knows a lot of players do weird stuff like merge their range/turn hands into bluffs (both live & online lol), so we can never completely discount the spazz factor. But yeah i think river is close, i dont fault a fold or just putting your foot down & calling vs aggro reg

Tbh I like a fold better though, esp when we have a TAG image and it looks like exactly what we have, this deep.

This is a super good spot to be flatting flop with all sets for range deception though & getting paid off on later streets by spaz/weaker value hands/bluffs

Calling and hating life.

Sums it up for me. 3 combos of 77, 1 of 33, two T7s if we must, against 4 of 98s, the most likely draw. If we're going to give him an aggressively plays GS like 65s or a defend like T7s, we have to give him J9/J8s and a few like that that missed. (Those hands would be better for him to bluff with since they minorly block some of our made hands, but i think this is overthinking it.)

We win vs T7

Prob jamming turn and never folding AP to an aggro 5T reg going nuts on T73r

What's the point of jamming turn? Not like he's doing this with AT.

Calling is obviously fine, but stationing can lower river bluffing frequency in spot like this by way of having only fractional psbs effective once calling turn .

There are already a fair amount of turn calls here, and I want hands I can jam myself sometimes too, esp in just a 2b pot where I'll still be wide here.
Allowing aggro opponents to play rivers well OOP is a leak, kind of, and there is value in taxing their high equity barrels as long as you know you're dealing with a hot-cold equity range. It's not easy to play against polarize ranges OOP no matter what you do, but as long as they're wide+you're not folding then jam sometimes and know you're good when they don't snap you off.

If I run into the stone top, then I lose, rebuy and get back to it.

what a disgusting hand

he probably has 98o but does he really take this line as a bluff...? what a terrible bluff, he reps so thin, whatever call, if he binked A3/77 or quads good for him.

I like jamming turn because he has to call his oesd if he plays them this way and he might not always bluff the river with them if he misses.

Fold flop

Fyp.

Tough spot. I can see it going either way. I would probably fold because most river shoves I see are with relatively nutted hands. However, I play 1/2 and this is a different spot so I can see a call here.

No, don't try so hard to be cool.

Hope you didn't slowroll him on the river.

Thanks so much for the valuable input! Maybe I should just fold pre next time.

If i was trying hard to be cool i would would be posting more Mike McDermott poker advice. But i dont. I post Joey Knish advice. Because that is the true grinder advice that it takes to take consistent income from this game over a long period of time.

Everyone wants to be Mike, and no one wants to be Knish.

If you would have asked why, i would have given you a well thought out answer. But your cup is already filled to the brim it seems. Good luck

The structure of your NL 2/5 nine-handed with over 100-150bb effective stacks rewards super tight machine type robotic play. That is where your money will come in. Tight. Not just preflop but also postflop must be tight. Many pots will have you with the best starting hands and that will be simple to play as you will be either fit-or-fold or in the near nut range on the flop. When you flop only one pair hand, keep the pot small if you can, else give it up. Need an extraordinary amount of patience, effort and discipline to play tight in live games surrounded by fish. I know how it feels, but that's the way to grind consistent income for life like 10-12bb/hour.

I do apologize for coming across as rude, but does your reply not seem like trolling? Fold flop when an aggro 5/10 reg check raises a T73r flop when he has T7s never? Really?

9 combos of sets, 4 98s, give him maybe 1 65s. Ez fold on flop. People don't fold enough on this forum. You can make an exploitable fold here.

I agree with not becoming committed with an over-pair in this case, actually in almost all cases. I see no point in helping villain to build up his pot. But I disagree with the fact that "People don't fold enough on this forum". I happen to know many of the 2+2ers here in Vegas and I can say for sure they do fold. In fact they fold a lot when comes the point where villain start building it up. Unless of course they have some bigger hand.

But what happen here at 2+2 they try hard to be the cool ones, the aggressive ones and the GTO ones. That what's happening.

Villain leads when the 3 of clubs hits. Why? If he has a 3 or a full house why would he lead out instead of letting us hang ourselves? I suspect he has the Tc with the 9c, Jc, or Ac. River bricked the draws so I think this is a call. I suspect he feels he can bully this table a bit.

Why cant he have T7s? Heck, if he was feeling really gambley, I wouldn't be surprised to see an occasional defend with T7o.

Lol at him folding 98o pre too, never happening.