Hero- White late 20s Been playing a lil looser than normal raised a straddle with 8 10 off in late pos. to 55 got called and got the stacks in with 2 pair and won.

Villian-White mid 20s Tag tight pre, been playin wit for hour and a half

Villain has 285 I cover him with 800

Button has me covered with 1500

4 limpers to me in the big blind with KK. I make it 30 Villian calls
and button.

Flop(100)264 I fire 100 and Villain shoves, Button folds 185 to me????

Look up theory of SPR and study it.

Pop it to 50 pre.

As played, call.

I prefer $35-40 pre.

Easy call.

Fold.

You're probably up against a monster. Forget the insanely good pot odds of 2+:1. Forget that you're beat by almost nothing (except sets and straights).

Is that what you wanted to read?

No really though. Call. Easy call.

Bet flop smaller though. $50-60.

Snappiest snap call ever. We're getting insane odds and are doing just fine against his range. (Thank him for being short stacked, because if has $800 things get a bit dicey.)

Our stack size makes this awkward pf. Any reasonable raise is often going to result in an SPR that's unfavorable for overpairs. The "raise pf, get called, get raised on a low/mid flop, wtf do i do?" problem is not solved by making it $40 or $50 pf. If we get flatted by one person who covers us (like button), if they're even halfway decent, they have the ability to make our life difficult postflop. I'd like some reads on any opponents with more than 100bb before deciding how to proceed. I actually don't hate a raise to $30-$35 here with the intent to gii against a short-stacked Villain if we're willing & able to get away from it sometimes against a deeper stack.

Your sizing is awful.

Bigger pre. Smaller flop.

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever even thinking about folding.


gg sorry he flopped a set on you...

Never ever finding a fold here.. NH if he flopped it and on to the next one

If he had a set you deserved to lose for playing it so badly.

Bigger preflop bet. Its a snap call. Most people that flop a set aren't going to shove on such a dry board. Unless they are a weaker player. I play 2/5, and I haven't seen a whole let of leveling (I KNOW that YOU know) at these stakes.

Ya SPR is something u should look into and this is a no brainer snap call.

Super easy call.

Doing anything else is criminal.

Raise more pre please given that there is 4 limpers, and we are OOP.

Good luck.

Yup definitely had a set. I say I know you have a set he laughs and says it could be an over pair, making it even more obvious and I call. He shows a set of 4s only type of hand he would of limped early. I think I should have folded, but because I was playin a lil looser that night I called.

Omg please never fold to him here. People get crazy with JJ and QQ here all the time. Plus 45 56 46 and even 99 TT

+1. Autoput villain on a set here is a big mistake, though against certain tight/rockish opponents that may be the case. But against many villains range here i believe we are doing good with KK.

If he has like 56 or JJ-QQ type of hand we are in fantastic shape to double up.

Lets just prove it with math also:

$485 in the pot. $185 to call. This means that you need to be good here 1:2.61 times.

Sample range that is likely way too tight:

Board: 2c 6d 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.603% 33.82% 00.78% 28128 648.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 65.397% 64.62% 00.78% 53736 648.00 { QcQd, QcQh, QcQs, 66, 44, 22, 6c5c, 6h5h }

And we're winning 1:1.88 times. (clearly a call)

This range simulates any 3 combinations of overpairs (which isn't even all the possible combinations of any one overpair, i.e. QQ has 6 possible ways to make it, and we're only saying he playing QQ like this half the time), two combinations of a semi bluff (65s for pair, gut shot, and back door flush) and sets. Clearly we're getting the right price. If he plays every combination of any over pair like this (all 6 combinations) our equity jumps significantly.

Board: 2c 6d 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.522% 43.74% 00.78% 44166 792.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 55.478% 54.69% 00.78% 55230 792.00 { QQ, 66, 44, 22, 6c5c, 6h5h }

Winning 1:1.24 times. (clearly a call)

And if he never bluffs, but has 1 overpair in his range and all flopped straight with suited cards we're still doing great given the price we're getting:

Board: 2c 6d 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.961% 33.23% 00.73% 37500 828.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 66.039% 65.31% 00.73% 73704 828.00 { QQ, 66, 44, 22, 53s }

Winning 1:1.94 times. (still clearly a call)

So, yeah, don't ever fold here. But I'm sorry you lost.

Obviously call, but I also feel that you are likely folding out a lot of worse hands like 6x, 33, 55, and 77-99 with your sizing.