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2/5,KK 4bet pot on tricky turn 2/5,KK 4bet pot on tricky turn

07-19-2019 , 03:16 PM
10-handed local 240BB Max buy in game. Villian here seems a relatively semi-loose young asian guy who limp/calls a few questionable weak hands but raises a stronger range. His postflop play is rational and straightforward. Effective stack here is $1.2k. HJ unknown raises $20,villian in CO 3bets $60 for the first time one hour into the game,hero in sb 4bets with KhKd $180,HJ folds, villian quickly calls.
Flop($375): Qc Qh 3c. hero bets $225,villian flat calls fast.
Turn($775): Jd. hero has about $800 behind.Shove,b/c,b/f,c/c,c/f .Which option is the best?Is my preflop 4bet sizing too small?Do you range bet like $125 on this dry flop?Villian can 3bet and call my 4bet with AQs,AK,TT+.I just can't see any worse hands which can call my turn bet except AcKc.c/f seems too weak given 1/3 stack in a 4bet pot

Last edited by maplestar; 07-19-2019 at 03:25 PM.
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07-19-2019 , 03:22 PM
Flop bet too big. Check turn.
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07-19-2019 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Flop bet too big. Check turn.
We check/fold on this turn if he bets something like $200-400?Do you bet 1/3 pot on the flop?
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07-19-2019 , 04:04 PM
This is like the nut low runout for your 4! range and the nuts for his 4! calling range. Probably downbet flop to $125ish and check turn. a 4! calling range is pretty narrow to begin with and him calling the large flop bet strengthens it even more.

Betting 1/3-1/4 might have kept his range A BIT wider to maybe include some non-AKh or TT. By calling the 2/3 flop bet after calling your 4! his range is basically AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AhKh.

AP I check turn and am likely folding to a bet.
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07-19-2019 , 04:13 PM
maplestar, you have good posts, but they are so difficult to digest. Add some spacing, line breaks, etc., please

Pre is good. Flop bet is too big, and his snap calls bother me (pre and on the flop).

I check turn and probably fold vs. described V.
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07-20-2019 , 01:29 PM
07-20-2019 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
maplestar, you have good posts, but they are so difficult to digest. Add some spacing, line breaks, etc., please

Pre is good. Flop bet is too big, and his snap calls bother me (pre and on the flop).

I check turn and probably fold vs. described V.
+1

What worse hands are we expecting to call flop for that sizing? It's a 4b pot. The hands we beat are AK&JJ, maybe some TT.
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