$2/$5, 9 handed, $1.5k effective.

Big whale opens $25 +1, we 3 bet LJ $100 K K for exploitative reasons, SB unknown who has only been here a half hour and has been quiet cold calls, whale somehow folds.

Flop ($230): J J 9. SB checks dark, we $150, he calls.

I did not love this flop. Cold calling looks a lot like 99-QQ (at least weighted towards that based on population reads.) I also don't want to check because we have no diamond, and would expect TT to call every time, along with QQ calling is obviously obvious.

Turn ($530): 6. SB checks and we check back.

I honestly feel like this is an extremely standard check. Correct me if I'm wrong.

River ($530): 3. SB checks. How much are you betting?

I check this flop back in Way ahead/way behind flop

I like betting smaller on the flop and I think checking once in awhile is ok too.

As played I think I bet around 385.

I agree flop and turn are good/standard.

Bet an amount you think he will call with TT/QQ or even talk himself into thinking he's chopping w/AK. 200-250? Any more seems like we would fold out all but QQ and just loose more $ when/if he ever has it.

I definitely think a lot of strategies against our opponent’s likely range will work here. Big/check/big for example works.

If we bet 385 on river as recommended, we are never being bluffed out of the pot. Also gives QQ and TT ample chance to pay off big.


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Check on turn can be ok but disagree with calling it standard. Betting is totally legitimate and a valid path to getting stacks in. This is actually a good texture for hero to get more action on turn than he would sometimes otherwise.

Agree smalller flop bet is probably better.

I like checking the flop when we have K; I really dislike checking when we don't.

I could get behind a smaller flop bet. With the given texture in a non 3 bet pot, I do like going bigger, but given it is a 3 bet pot, I think I like going ~ $115, what do you guys think of that?

After thinking about it, I suppose check on the turn might not be so routine to call it "standard," but I still think we run into the problem of getting TT to fold, and then it gives 99, JJ the opportunity to crai, and that'd just be gross; whereas we can check and call a huge river lead comfortably/he checks river again and we just know we have the best hand.

With that being said, without saying my actual line yet, I'm liking Mr Spyutastic's river sizing, but I think it may be too small; isn't this a classic capped range example where we go huge?

I’m cbetting flop here without the kd and i think this is standard.

But the turn is much more V dependent and I wish we had a better read. V knows he will be playing this hand oop against a huge 3b from a skilled opponent. Would he take this line with a drawing hand with which he’d have trouble realizing his equity oop? A good player probably wouldn’t unless he’s closing the action and in this case, the Whale closed the action preflop.

For me, this sets off alarm bells, along with the check in the dark. What hands could he comfortably check in the dark and also risk playing multi-way preflop with the Whale in the hand? So I’m okay with the turn check because there’s only two AKs left and I don’t think he can play a drawing hand this way.

Now maybe this V is just strange but I cannot understand what we can target for value on this river other than QQ and I’m not sure he’d check QQ in the dark. I smell AA here and now I’m paralyzed. I guess we have to make a value bet just to block a bluff repping a JTs or 99. But I expect to be shown AA here and I’m not sure what to do if he raises us. This is MUBSY but V’s line is so weird and disconcerting.

If we expect the villain to call with TT, then the flop is an obvious bet. Otherwise we should check it back.

Villain check/called the flop, and checked both turn and river. If they had a hand worth betting for value, why would they risk hero checking back again on the river?

Bet something like half to two thirds of the pot, let it go if we get raised.

ETA: I mean, we unblock missed diamond and straight draws, but if the villain is playing only pairs, they have none of those.

Turn check is fine if we now are going to put in a big river bet. Would bet $350-450

I bet $350 and he called; MHWG, obviously.

I feel like I missed an opportunity to bet a lot bigger. I thought that when villain's range is capped, that's the best time to put in an overbet?

Interesting hand.

I check flop here but bet can be okay too I think.

As played his range looks like it could be QQ or 1010 missed diamonds

I bet fold 180 on river

Man I read some of the replies and idk my answer is so different

I think I would bet 1/3 pot on river to target like specifically 1010 which is what I think he has a lot.

Idk if he could call a bigger bet with 1010

I know if someone bet 1/3 pot into me after I check on the river after taking a bet check bet line on this board and we are deep and I have 1010 I’m gonna turn it into a bluff so often

I think a pot sized bet seems good to since it’ll be hard to get raises


Can anyone plug this hand into a solver?

You don't need a solver to see that you should bet this hand otr for value since V has way more combos you beat that he cold calls in SB and checks three times than you lose to. Given the action pre and otf, I weight his TT, QQ much more heavily than his AA (should be a cold 4! pre) and JJ/99, which both account for only 4 combos and would expect some c/r and folds pre with 99.

Why'd OP say you 3! KK $100 "for exploitative reasons"? $100 seems pretty standard, maybe even more against V as described. You normally go less? Do you want to give your Vs good implied odds every time you 3!? Especially since you are relatively deep.

I agree we should bet river but sizing is interesting

Bet a size you think someone would call with QQ or TT. I like anywhere from $250-$400.

I probably go like 600-700 OTR. Our hand looks more like a missed draw and we’re trying to buy the pot

I could plug it into a solver but that is reliant on knowing villain’s preflop range. What range would you give him?

Seems fair but how often are we going to have only flush draws in our range

i said draws, not flush draws. back door straight draws apply to that statement too. turn is a brick so we wont continue to bet OTT with AK/AQ much of the time and sometimes we should take a free card with KQ because we're IP and have that option

AK, AQ, KQ is 48 combos

AA, KK, QQ is 18 combos

we should be 3! a whale with all of these