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07-13-2018 , 12:36 AM
Playing 1/3 NLH. I sit in and the game is playing extremely loose. Straddles in 7-8 spots making it a 1-3-6 game. Max buy in is 300 and there are several large stacks above 1000. Lots of pre flop raises going 4-5 ways at $15-25 dollars.

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I’m in seat 1 in the BB with $330. The straddle is on making it 1-3-6. For the first time in a long time it is limped around 5 ways to me in the BB. I have 10-5 OS and complete to 6. Straddle checks his option and we go 6 ways to a flop of K 10 5 CC. SB checks and I go ahead and bet $20 with bottom 2. It folds to the SB (just sat down Young Asian $300 behind) who puts in the raise to $60.

How should I proceed?
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07-13-2018 , 12:39 AM
Also how should I have played differently pre?
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07-13-2018 , 02:29 AM
Pre is very meh. We are getting 10:1 odds, but our hand is garbage, we have terrible position and are not closing the action. We probably should fold, but in reality i toss in the 3$ myself as well.

The pot is 36 on the flop, correct? in that case we need to bet bigger, around 30$. We have a nice hand to get value with and that can use some protection at the same time. Betting 20 doesn't really achieve either.

As played, call and see a turn. Proceed with caution though.
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07-13-2018 , 03:44 AM
Bet bigger OTF. More like $30. Or check/raise.

AP, I’m calling and proceeding very cautiously. You can easily be up against KT. And most players don’t raise a bare K or a draw in that spot.
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07-13-2018 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Viral25
Pre is very meh. We are getting 10:1 odds, but our hand is garbage, we have terrible position and are not closing the action. We probably should fold, but in reality i toss in the 3$ myself as well.

The pot is 36 on the flop, correct? in that case we need to bet bigger, around 30$. We have a nice hand to get value with and that can use some protection at the same time. Betting 20 doesn't really achieve either.

As played, call and see a turn. Proceed with caution though.
Correct the pot was $36 on the flop
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07-13-2018 , 10:05 AM
I appreciate the advice. I’m trying to improve my game and this is an avenue I haven’t tried until now.
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I called the $60 raise and the turn is the 3 of hearts. Pretty safe card but it brings the back door flush draw on board. There is $156 in the middle. The SB leads out for $100. I go ahead and jam it in and get snapped off by K-10. The river is the Q of clubs and we lose a buy in very early in our session. In hind sight I feel like I over played the hand and the villain was showing strength the entire way. I guess a fold on the turn is possible. I think calling the turn bet would have been best here. The front door flush completing on the river would have probably slowed him down and the river could have gone check check. Thanks for the constructive criticism I appreciate it.
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07-13-2018 , 10:10 AM
By the end here, our hand probably isn't going to look too great, especially if the pot gets huge. I'm check/raising the flop if I get here. and big.

But I probably wouldn't get here. I might toss in the $3 with a suited version of this hand, I'll save a BB with an offsuit holding. Position, odds, stacks, none of that matters more than the simple fact that your hand is really really really bad.

if the table was playing *really* loose, and I expected to be calling/trapping alot of the night, then I might blast it to something ridiculous like 75 pre-flop, and then table T5o when everyone folds. If I'm expecting to nut camp, it might help if everyone gets an eyeful of me bluffing.

I probably wouldn't do this too often. But this might be a good spot to make a massive overbet and take down 10BB's without a fight. Little things like that will really pad your win rate.
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07-13-2018 , 10:15 AM
Fold pre. I complete the SB pretty liberally but this is one of the worst hands.

Bigger on the flop too. Multiway on a board like this, there are a lot of bad turn cards for us, so we want to charge the max now.

2 pair at 50bb in a wild game, im just jamming this flop. There are enough draws out there that he can have,not to mention bigger Kx hands. Calling it off is also fine, but Im never folding.
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07-13-2018 , 11:22 AM
Sounds like every game I've ever played in.

I would fold preflop. Yeah, we're getting tremendous immediate odds, and it would be an easy call if we had no more money behind. But we do have money behind, and we're going to be OOP with a crap hand where other than making quads we won't be able to make a single hand where we'll be happy shovelling in chips postflop. On top of that, straddlers raise their straddles a decent percentage of the time. RIO and OOP make this a fold in spite of the tremendous immediate odds, imo.

I like our flop bet. ETA: Unlike others, I'm fine with our smalllish sizing. Bottom two pair is just one pip bigger than TPTK, and we wouldn't be going nutso with TPTK in a limped pot, so I wouldn't with the next best hand either.

I would fold to the check/raise. It's an incredibly nitty fold because there is likely only one hand in his preflop limping range we lose to (KT) unless he's getting very tricky with KK/TT or he hit the case 5 with 55. But he checked the flop vs the world and eventually check/raised an EP donker, that's strong. If it is QJcc, nice hand.

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07-13-2018 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Sounds like every game I've ever played in.

I would fold preflop. Yeah, we're getting tremendous immediate odds, and it would be an easy call if we had no more money behind. But we do have money behind, and we're going to be OOP with a crap hand where other than making quads we won't be able to make a single hand where we'll be happy shovelling in chips postflop. On top of that, straddlers raise their straddles a decent percentage of the time. RIO and OOP make this a fold in spite of the tremendous immediate odds, imo.

I like our flop bet. ETA: Unlike others, I'm fine with our smalllish sizing. Bottom two pair is just one pip bigger than TPTK, and we wouldn't be going nutso with TPTK in a limped pot, so I wouldn't with the next best hand either.

I would fold to the check/raise. It's an incredibly nitty fold because there is likely only one hand in his preflop limping range we lose to (KT) unless he's getting very tricky with KK/TT or he hit the case 5 with 55. But he checked the flop vs the world and eventually check/raised an EP donker, that's strong. If it is QJcc, nice hand.

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Yeah I actually don’t mind bet/folding flop.
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07-13-2018 , 12:17 PM
Fold pre, not close
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07-13-2018 , 01:43 PM
In spots like this flop raise, I often sit back for a min and ask myself "Would I do this if I had a hand one step below mine" So would villian check-raise this flop with a big ace?

In general I find check raise from early posiiton either pre-flop or on the flop to be a big hand.
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07-13-2018 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Eholeing
Fold pre, not close
This.

AP, I make it $130 OTF and fold to a 4!.
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