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09-20-2013 , 11:12 AM

mrpotto

grinder

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 551

$2/5 home game. I limp in position with 9

after several others limp and we see a flop which is 9

UTG Pete bets $10 and Gabe calls. I raise to $40 hoping to take it down but they both call. Turn is the J

and I decide to check behind. I need to bet like $90-100 there don't I? One other piece of info was that a 10 was exposed prior to the flop so that discounts straights. Pete is fairly tight and will make an occasional play; Gabe is loose and loves to draw with or without odds.

Does anyone else check there?

River is a 3

and Pete leads for $70; Gabe folds. Snap fold right?

Let me hear some thoughts on this one.

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09-20-2013 , 11:21 AM

metdude3128

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 240

Id definately have bet on the turn, you cant check behind there. You haveto fire around $110 there to at least see where your at, and id expect at least one fold. If you were discounting the straight in your head due to the overturned 10, you had absolutely no reason to check that turn, and gave up control with a pretty strong hand.

As played, I calculated the pot to be around $230 after his $70 river bet, so you were getting around 3-1 on a call, you may haveto at least see it for that price.

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09-20-2013 , 12:27 PM

wewa925

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,039

pre is fine. you can raise, fold, or limp here. unless you're shallow ~100 or less.

stack sizes? I'm betting turn for value.

as played, you have to call the river at that price.

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09-20-2013 , 04:49 PM

Dubey

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,844

Bet turn for value. Probably close to a PSB since a big chunk of both villain's ranges are draws. I probably bet $120 and check back most rivers.

As played, it's close, but probably a crying call on the river.

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09-20-2013 , 05:32 PM

MaxRhino

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Needs stack sizes.

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09-20-2013 , 06:06 PM

Illiterate

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,237

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Originally Posted by MaxRhino

Needs stack sizes.

This. Also, how many limpers pre?

In a vacuum, turn is a bet/fold. You missed a lot of value from 98/78/diamonds/JdXd.

As played, fold the river. The tiny donk-bet on the flop is usually indicative of a draw. If he's really a tight player it's hard to see him having worse here.

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09-20-2013 , 06:54 PM

playertee

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,999

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Originally Posted by metdude3128

You haveto fire around $110 there to at least see where your at,

Agree on the bet, not the reasoning.

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09-21-2013 , 10:49 AM

mrpotto

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 551

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Needs stack sizes.

Sorry - I had $500 to start the hand
Villain 1 had about $300
Villain 2 had about $500

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Also, how many limpers pre?

2 or 3. I raise there sometimes but with this crew it's often lighting money on fire as no one respects raises and I like to mix it up here with a limp along some of the time.

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09-21-2013 , 12:49 PM

wj94

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,945

b/f turn. too many combo draws to check. i might even lean towards a b/c depending on stack sizes.

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09-21-2013 , 05:30 PM

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mtagliaf

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,649

I'm probably bet-calling the turn vs. Villain one, and maybe villain 2 also. I think their range is capped on this wet board - sets would fastplay your flop raise because the board is so wet. I think they're both on draws or TP/overpair type stuff that can't fold. 8T just came in on the turn but then they both checked to you, and one of the tens is missing.

Much of this logic is dependent on the skill of the opponents, but I'm not folding for 60BB vs. Villain 1.

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