I really disagree with this and from some of your other posts (i.e., not willing to complete SB w/ AJ when limped to), I think you probably do a really good job of protecting your stack and not putting yourself in difficult situations, but at a significant cost to getting thinner value.

I would guess you very rarely get value-owned. But just like they say that if you never fold the best hand to a bluff, you are calling too much, same goes to being value-owned. If you very rarely get value-owned, you probably aren't value betting thin enough.

IMO many villains would have called in this situation (esp a slightly smaller bet), not to mentioned all the other value hands others have listed in this thread.

Not a soul read. Easy snap call to a x/r here. Between the dry aces, sets and big pairs with a heart, (and nice outs if we're behind) we have massive equity against a gii range here.

Hand is well played. Its a pretty rare villain who folds red queens to that action.

I wouldn't agree with all of this but
I don't put myself in spots where I'm drawing to the low end of a straight or a baby flush with 6 others in the pot or Ace rag with 6 others to the flop.
I never said given the right line up I wouldn't raise AJ from small blind I just said would never call.
I'll 3-bet 87 from late position to narrow the field before calling and taking it 7 way to the flop , just my style
I have no issues being the aggressor, its the calling off lite I don't do, do I fold a winner here and there ; sure
as to this post given what OP stated my read was JJ QQ and value on the river may have been had where a turn bet will scare these hands off
I enjoy everyones posts and always look at other ways hands could be played.
thank you

Likewise, I have enjoyed reading your posts and considering the different approaches you offer.

That’s why you need to bet small on that particular turn.

That's being results oriented. We need to play the hand vs his range, not vs one particular hand.

V can fold mid strength hands on scary boards to a double barrel when you play it like AA-AK, put that in the old memory bank

Hero checks turn,

River is the 3 of spades. Villain bets $250, hero just decides to call, V has A7HH for
The flush.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Huh? You said you bet & they x/f red QQ.

Yeah what kind of funny business is going on here?

Trolling innovation, I like it

Alt ending. Win the minimum, lose minimum.

Where is the bet turn crai ending???

Sumthin for ebry1 mang

I said that before I knew the results check the time stamp. Also a small bet works better vs his entire range. Play around with solvers and you’ll figure this out

yes and we want value. time stamp from which results

Yes and we lost value. Betting big forces our opponents into a narrower calling range and checking leaves our betting range polar to bluffs and flushes. Betting small solves both of these problems

Can’t say this any better. Bet turn / check back scary river cards.


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good sizing on the flop. hard to tell if he just has a pair or if he binked the flush.

you have a ton of outs if he already got there. I would keep milking the pot. bet something that he can easily call. 125.

this and this. it is so rare to actually flop a flush draw in a heads up pot for either player.

since H has the K, you have to keep extracting value

Kudos to the OP for posting 2 very different results. The results of any particular hand are absolutely irrelevant. I honestly wish there was a rule against posting results in this forum.

Checking turn is super easy here. Even if you completely ignore the flush, youll get bigger value by checking back and putting in a value bet otr which will get called nearly always. Also it underreps your hand, and he is sure to bet river even if it pairs, so you can stack the flushes when you hit a FH, and lose the min by just calling a river bet when he bets river on a blank.

If you didnt have Kh youd probably be more inclined to bet to get folds or value out of some sort of bare hearts like JJh.

People suggesting a bet what are you getting value from other than AK maybe KQ, which will both call a river bet just as easily? if you check you can get value from JJ/QQ otr.

Question for the folks advocating a small turn bet to "milk" the V. What bluffs are we doing that with? Are we betting a bigger size with our bluffs? Are we just giving up our bluffs on the turn?

I play against the same player pool a lot so I have to try to stay somewhat balanced.

I double barrel a lot as well so I'm actually bluffing in a lot of these spots. It seems a lot of advice I'm getting is what to do with my particular hand and not what I would be doing with my entire range.

For instance, are we betting QQ and JJ here or checking it back. With a heart or without a heart.

What about AK with the A hearts? Without the A of hearts?

AA with and without a heart?

I think on this particular board checking the turn makes the most sense when you factor in what my range is and what my opponents range is. Especially since we are blocking our opponent from having a K.

Checking the turn is definitely better than betting a standard 2/3 pot bet. I’m not betting the flop with QQ/JJ. Some bluffs you could play this way our AhQx, AxQh. Your bluffs combos should be about 1:1 on the turn and 1:2 on the river
So I think 8 combos is fine, you might be underbluffing slightly in this spot which is okay since your betting range is super polarized