Hero ~1k
Villain covers. Never played together. Sitting together at the table for like 3 hours and he seems like a good reg. He 3b a lot in that time.

1imper, hero raises in hj to 25 with KJ, villain flats otb, blinds fold, limper folds.
Flop (65) A22
hero cbets 20, villain calls
Turn (105) A22K
check check
River (105) A22KQ
hero checks, villain bets 100.
What do you think about a x/r to like 500 or 600?
Villain would 3b AQ, AK (pretty sure AJ too) so his value range is capped to A2s-ATs i guess assuming he flats some Axs hands ip.

What about calling? Not sure how often villain turns 33-99 into a bluff (to make hero fold Kx) to make this call profitable.

In b4 fold pre.

Fold river. If you c/r go $400 max. Seems like lighting money on fire to go $600. Doesn't make any sense but sure he's capped here and probably won't call very often depending on your perceived image

I never like to only rep QQs full + in these spots

I think pre is fine especially vs high VPIP limpers.

You should mainly fold with this hand but it makes a decent candidate for an occasional c/r depending on villain river tendencies. He's capped at JT so its nice to have a J. $350 - $400 for sizing.

Grunch: What would you be repping with this line? Only value hand I can see you playing like this is QQ, and that's repping mighty thin.

Please tell me you XRed here. This line is awesome.

What's great about this run out is you can have all JTs as well and he can't have any.

I'd make it huge - the bigger the better.

At first I was thinking like Garrick, that we're repping thin. But he flats pre, flats flop then checks back turn he can't really have JT (won't flat flop), or AA, KK, QQ here. AQ might be in pre flat range but doesn't check back turn.

Villain pretty much has complete airball or stupid too thin value. Blow him off his hand.

what is your image in these 3 hrs ?


fold pre you have rags and a player who 3-bets a lot is yet to act.

if he 3-bet you pre what was your plan ????????


my river play depends on my perceived image in those 3 hrs

While I agree with this analysis and much of the sentiment it displays, I'd be much happier doing this against a mediocre reg. A bad rec might call with his thin value just because he sucks and a good reg, as V is described, should call with his thin value just because your line reps so absurdly thin.

I don't think we rep JT here very convincingly, unless we have a solid creative image. Population reads would put JT as leading or check/calling river on a paired board, not c/r.

Nonetheless, he's also repping pretty thin, and if I had him as a ABC TAG, I'd like it.

I don't think he's folding many As here, and you beat almost everything else.

I really don't think you rep much. I hate the tiny bet on the flop, if you turned two pair or better, would you really check turn and river?

If you do go for it, $350 is probably enough -- maybe $400.

I would call him if I didn't raise, though.

^this

Raising here would certainly be interesting. I don't think you'd have many boats here after checking both turn and river. I think you'd lead the river with most of your value hands, afraid it might check back.

When V's bet the pot on the river, it's almost always nutted hands or complete bluffs. I'm thinking a raise here is unnecessary. You're either ahead with no need to raise OR will get snap called by whatever strong value hand V has.

Not a good spot to xr imo.

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I don't like it. A lot of villains are still going to bet call all their aces and once in awhile they have a 2.

Their reasoning will be like, "He's trying to get me off a chop." and then call.

how cn you eliminate so many of his hands. one thing he called the flop getting 4 to one so he could have anything there. and pre dont decent players just flat with many good hands so you cant read them later on in a big pot? i do.

you checked twice. he is going to bluff, bet for value, and bet his big hands. so take a guess.

Aight many different opinions here

Never ever not isolating a rec limper with KJ here. Way too tight to fold pre imo.
I must have had a pretty tight image because of card deadness.
I called thinking he could turn a pair into a bluff and didnt think he would flat many aces pre. I also didnt think he would bet pot with Ax otr.
Villain had A9

I agree it is for sure a weird/ creative line but just based on what i think villains range looks like he cant have nutted hands but we can. Otr villain mostly has a bluffcatcher at best imo. Thats why i thought afterwards that x/r huge must be printing money because we should get so many folds. Even if he is flatting/ slowplaying a strong hand pre sometimes, most of the time he isnt.

Very few people are folding an A on this river, especially how the hand was played by H.

I presume that V either had As9s, or the suits on the board are wrong?

The issue isn't whether his range is capped, it is whether he will fold. As I mentioned above, if he's as good as your reads lead us to believe, he should be calling as your story makes sense for basically only one hand. If he's a typical LLSNL bad reg, he'll be calling because "I didn't come here to fold top pair." If he's mediocre, the raise could be sexy.