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12-24-2017 , 12:00 AM
I don't know what your 2/5 winrate is, but your troll winrate is pretty awful.
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12-24-2017 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
Keep playing top 5% of preflop hands and bet/folding. Let me know when you own 2 properties.. have a 80k BR and a 200k life roll.. and can afford to get deep tissue massaged 4 days a week and have a black French candian chef cook you and your wife seafood and vegtables 5 days a week. Then we will talk. I'll laugh at you. Youll be like my life is so awesome I do this this and that, and I'll be like yeah I've actually done that so much I'm sick of it.
I'm so jealous of you, nice lifestyle. I always wanted a french canadian black chef myself but could never afford one. I also love vegtables.. Anyway I did not have bad intentions so I do not see why you're tilting.
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12-24-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
Keep playing top 5% of preflop hands and bet/folding. Let me know when you own 2 properties.. have a 80k BR and a 200k life roll.. and can afford to get deep tissue massaged 4 days a week and have a black French candian chef cook you and your wife seafood and vegtables 5 days a week. Then we will talk. I'll laugh at you. Youll be like my life is so awesome I do this this and that, and I'll be like yeah I've actually done that so much I'm sick of it.
My Canadian chef is from Manitoba and only half black. So jealous.
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12-24-2017 , 03:03 PM
I like it. I'd 3bet pre though.
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12-24-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
I'm at $34.53 per hr over 3644 hrs at 2/5 dating back to 2012. But thanks for your condescending remark.
just think how much higher your win rate could be when you plug this massive leak in your game
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12-25-2017 , 02:34 PM
Im unsure why the race of the cook is relevant here. Please elaborate.
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12-25-2017 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
Man you guys are harsh.
Well played every street.

Wish I was near Foxwoods.

I want to get into your game (to learn from you of course).

/sarc

How I only WISH anyone in my games would take a similar line against me.

Just once!
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12-25-2017 , 06:11 PM
Actually this makes a big difference.

"... I think we can all agree playing SC in position 200bb deep vs a face up range is +EV. I think we can all agree him leading river for like a 1/5 pot after he calls my turn raise is just begging to keep the pot small and get to showdown asap... "

If this truly is a "sincere" weak lead then I take back my prior post about wanting to play in your game.

But I have had a lot of success with a weak lead when holding monsters, we have to know our villain better than he knows himself to be sure enough to stack off against what might be an intentional weak lead.
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12-25-2017 , 09:29 PM
Such a weird thread. In OP the v is a short stacking hit n run guy that misses value bets even when they seem obvious. He somehow is sitting w 200bb and leads 3 streets and we want to pile the money in w 6 hi
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12-25-2017 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
No, do not flat tight passive players UTG open with 65hh OTB. 3-bet if you want to play, but that's a stretch.

You seem to think you can just win every hand without cards. Keep that attitude up and you'll be an ATM for a while.
I'd hate to play in a game with a nit like you.

And you must be easy to play against and range against...small winner at best.

And in this particularly spot calling is better than 3betting.

Last edited by jt000; 12-25-2017 at 10:24 PM.
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12-25-2017 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
when a tight passive UTG player raises to 25 and it folds to us otb, I'm folding 56s. If there were more callers I would call.

Tight passive player's opening range from UTG is very narrow and nutted.

the rest is just spew.
The fact that his UTG range is very narrow is a good thing...he's easy to range, you basically know exactly what he has. Plus if you do hit can get good value from his overpair, especially if it's somewhat disguised like trips, 2 pair or a straight.

You have position against a tight, straight forward player about 200bb deep...you should almost always be calling here.

Folding pre is way too nitty...what exactly is your pre flop calling range then?
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12-25-2017 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jt000
The fact that his UTG range is very narrow is a good thing...he's easy to range, you basically know exactly what he has. Plus if you do hit can get good value from his overpair, especially if it's somewhat disguised like trips, 2 pair or a straight.
exactly, so we know our equity is only 20%. We can also play ATC and "hope to hit" trips or two pair, but most good players don't.
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12-26-2017 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
exactly, so we know our equity is only 20%. We can also play ATC and "hope to hit" trips or two pair, but most good players don't.
Right our equity is 20% when we send 5bb in not 200bb. ATC is a profitable call this deep in position vs a face up ranged inexperienced deepstack.

I think it is very clear to everyone that your level of understanding of poker is far far beneath that of the top players. Not only is your play terrible and your losing consistent, but you have demonstrated your inability to grasp some concepts that are a little bit beyond the simplest ones. I know you won't really take my advice, but I would recommend that you stop making a fool of yourself.
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12-26-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
I think it is very clear to everyone that your level of understanding of poker is far far beneath that of the top players. Not only is your play terrible and your losing consistent, but you have demonstrated your inability to grasp some concepts that are a little bit beyond the simplest ones. I know you won't really take my advice, but I would recommend that you stop making a fool of yourself.
Are you calling yourself a top player? Or when was the last time you saw Ben Sulsky make this play? Why even look at your hand preflop if atc are profitable?
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12-26-2017 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Eholeing
Are you calling yourself a top player? Or when was the last time you saw Ben Sulsky make this play? Why even look at your hand preflop if atc are profitable?
I would estimate that beating 2/5 for 7bb an hr probably puts me in the top 5% perhaps even 2% but can't say for sure. If I remember correctly you said I should fold preflop. It is correct to fold exactly nothing in this spot. It is of little wonder why nobody takes your posts seriously. I don't play the stakes sauce does so I'm unconcerned with the frequency of which he would make a play like this. I know that winning players make profitable plays while marginally losing nits like yourself don't play SC in position 200bb deep, mkay
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12-26-2017 , 02:57 AM
You keep quoting your winrate and relaying how great your life is, it's almost as if you have something to prove to some strangers on a forum
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12-26-2017 , 03:45 AM
Seriously OP enough of the relative newbie nonsense. From the title alone it’s clear that you have simply reached the point in your gambling/poker playing timeline where you discovered that selecting a pure strat against your local capped AF scared AF racked up AF guy is printing money. There’s nothing ‘suicide’ about it, other than to evidence your inexperience with playing this way on the regular. In a vacuum, cool, good post, different things to think about for some, but all the cross-thread trash talk now has to be called out. I promise it’s a yawn to Tiltyjoker and lurkers in here that have been ISO, pile pile piling nitfish with atc since the oughts.
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12-26-2017 , 04:27 AM
It's good to have these thought processes going, but you need to veto them a lot. There are so many contingencies here, including your read on the V being right.

But if it is right, we're drawing to a spade so we can make a no equity bluff against sets and top pair, which will sometimes include a FD. If no spade comes are we done, or drawing to a river spade bluff?

V also helped us out a lot with his weak lead strategy. Many go into check call mode, in which case it will be way harder to get a fold.

Then, he needs to miss the river. Not just with his actual hand, but perhaps with the other hands you put him on too. IDK, maybe you are pretty sure how he'll play each hand in his range. But say the board pairs and he checks. What now?

Plus, if he does have a set, maybe he just reraises you all in on the turn or check calls the river or finds some other way not to fold. Tight/scared players do these things sometimes.

That's a big parlay. It's so much better when you have things that can go right for you, i.e. a hand you can make.

Oh, and of course, you are laying a price on this working.

Last edited by ES2; 12-26-2017 at 04:34 AM.
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12-26-2017 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
My Canadian chef is from Manitoba and only half black. So jealous.
Luckshereee.

My Canadian Chef isn't even from Canada and he can only make Poutine.
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12-26-2017 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Seriously OP enough of the relative newbie nonsense. From the title alone it’s clear that you have simply reached the point in your gambling/poker playing timeline where you discovered that selecting a pure strat against your local capped AF scared AF racked up AF guy is printing money. There’s nothing ‘suicide’ about it, other than to evidence your inexperience with playing this way on the regular. In a vacuum, cool, good post, different things to think about for some, but all the cross-thread trash talk now has to be called out. I promise it’s a yawn to Tiltyjoker and lurkers in here that have been ISO, pile pile piling nitfish with atc since the oughts.
Nah, OP got the perfect runnout against a poorly chosen Villain, therefore he's a baller.
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12-26-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AvgReg
Not only is your play terrible and your losing consistent, but you have demonstrated your inability to grasp some concepts that are a little bit beyond the simplest ones. I know you won't really take my advice, but I would recommend that you stop making a fool of yourself.
I will definitely pass on your advise about playing ATC vs a player who we know either has aces or kings like 95% of the time in order to try and out flop him. That is what a gambling fish does. When I know someone open raises from UTG with a premium hand I'm tossing away my trash when it's folded to me in a heart beat. And you think 200BB's is deep?

Just because you got lucky enough to jam on a 4 straight board to get someone to fold doesn't mean you played this hand good at all. Your only play otr was to jam, obv. But what you did before that was just throwing money away. I see you don't take constructive criticism too well either.
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12-28-2017 , 06:43 AM
I'm quite stunned at how few people on here are boasting about their French Canadian chefs.
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12-28-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97
I'm quite stunned at how few people on here are boasting about their French Canadian chefs.
You beat me to a Poutine joke and I'm too slow to come up with something else.
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12-28-2017 , 12:43 PM
Can we stop and talk for a minute about someone making $34/hr hiring a personal chef?
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12-28-2017 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JacetheMind
Can we stop and talk for a minute about someone making $34/hr hiring a personal chef?
main job is crypto day trading
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