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Originally Posted by Rm12488
You know deep down it’s aces. Guaranteed he “hates ace king” and he’s flatting Queens. When he makes it 350 he’s saying I’m going with it imo. Still, I’m not good enough to fold
I can find a fold against a player who has demonstrated that he will limp-call with AK and raise/call with QQ, especially if he perceives me as a tight player. It helps if he is also the sort of player who will just call with the second-nut flush on the river because he is afraid of the nut flush, demonstrating that he may only put in big raises with the nuts.
It doesn't matter if this guy is loose or not preflop. What matters is that he is passive. He could be super-loose, but also super-passive so he only 4bets with AA. He could play a super nitty range preflop, but players like that are sometimes over-ambitious when they do pick up a hand and jam it in too often with AK/JJ. So you can't fold this against a tight-aggressive or loose-aggressive player but you might be able to find a fold against a tight-passive or loose-passive player if you have sufficient data.
If you step away from the table and think about it, you can come up with a profile for players who only play the nuts aggressively and apply that to situations, not just when you have KK and run into AA, but when you have the second-nut flush and run into the nut flush or when you have a smaller boat against the nut boat or quads. Some people will just shrug and chalk it up to variance while noting that KK vs AA doesn't happen that often, but you can come up with a more general scenario of a very strong non-nut hand vs the nuts and you do run into that a bit more often, especially if you play in deeper-stacked games, so it should be worthy of your consideration. I don't think you are being the best player you can be if you think that is just a cooler and you were destined to go broke.