Just another example of why NL is built for guys with a little bit of equity and a whole lot of nerve.

He fires large through that King on the turn. Good aggressive players at these stakes use these types of turns to further bluffs. They also like to check big hands into other aggressive players in these spots. I would have sniffed this one out. But there are a million others I miss and I think we are all folding the best hand a lot more than we think. I played a little 10/20 at bellagio this year. I am no baller and just short stacked to try to make a score. It seems like the really good players are contstantly taking advantage of the guys who won't put big money in the pot or take a lot of heat with one pair.

wtf at all of the jam comments. What are you trying to fold him off of? T9? We are ahead of that hand, you know that right?

Readless the turn is a call if the flop is a call.

Villain played the hand very well, and took by far the highest EV line against most posters on this thread, who require 2pair+ to call down. He picked a good hand to do it with too, since he's not drawing dead against your calling range but has little to no showdown value.

I'm amazed at how many people said fold flop. Assuming we c-bet flop with a reasonable frequency, if we ONLY will continue against his c/r with top pair+, then he can profitably c/r bluff. We'd have to call his flop c/r with not only top pair + but some floats w/ hands like ace high. So what does that we if we don't even continue with top pair+ to a c/r? It means his c/r bluff is massively profitable and he should never check/fold the flop.

It is our fourth band at the table and we have no relevant reads. I require 2 pair + to call down here because 80% of llsnl players arent capable of raising less here.

Once ive been at the table longer i can recognize the other 20 and call down appropriately.

The thing is villains play was likely very reckless. He has not had enough time to know that Koko isnt a massive station like soa many players are.

I'd say its more like 65-70% than 80%. And I'm not saying that hero made a bad fold with the info he had at the time. But hero should now be calling flop check/raises most of the time versus this villain going forward.

Ben's posts are the nuts as usual.

Villian made a bigger mistake by showing then you made by folding IMO.

Now you can adjust accordingly from such a small sample size.

Agree with what Koss is saying though. I probably fold as my strategy is to assume everyone is bad and adjust if I think villians are bluff raising rather just but peddling.

This usually takes a while to establish though as you don't know of villian is getting smashed by the deck.

This villian did you a massive favour by showing.

I'd probably fold flop here, you are not beating a wide range of hands and most likely will face a bigger bet on turn, if that K didnt improve his hand it certainly didnt matter , either he flopped a monster or he was betting TPTK something like A10 figuring youd fold to most turns...it comes down to a physical read in this situation.

The best NL players are trying to determine when a standard reg (8 handicappers of the poker world) are capped at one pair, and then constructing lines that take them off it. With deep stacks this isn't hard for good hand readers with solid bankrolls who are comfortable with high variance.

The seven out hand villian held, was just iceing on the cake in case he ran into a non typical player who was willing to call off with JJ or TT.