2/5 9-handed game at an aggressive table.
Villian($2000)-- The guy in his late 20s. He is position aware ,raises a lot preflop and rarely limps.He is capable of bluffing with air when shown weakness.
Hero($1000)-- Nitty losing image. Hero folded to 3bet twice preflop and also cbet/folded to flop raise once(villian not involved).
hero raises to $20 with Ad8d in MP, BT calls, villian in BB calls.
Flop($60): Qc 4h 3d. Villian checks, Hero cbet $40,bt folds, villian raises to $135. Which option is the best given that we have BDFD plus Ad? hero folds, raises to $300 or raises to between $350 to $400?

Easy fold. We flopped air in a three-way pot, and i feel like you are trying to force the issue here if you are gonna bluff 3 bet the flop to like 350$-400$. When you are forcing things at the pokertable it often turns out bad for you=losing money.


Another thing to consider is to lower your C-bet bluff percentage (and general bluffs in general) when you have a weak-tight losing image at the table. That image will often minimize your fold equity, because even weak players can smell blood in the water when you have that image going for you.

I dont mind the cbet, queen high flops tend to get a lot of respect and that backdoor equity is gold. As such, despite your image, I dont think players tend to play back at losers at the table. The people who get played back at are the one's who raise a lot and keep winning without showdown. If anything he shouldnt be bluffing you at all. I dont know who said it, but 3bets on the flop are always bluffs. Whether villain recognizes that up front of just has a feeling for it is undetermined, however I really dont think a 3bet here is going to accomplish much. I mean honestly what hand would you ever do that with on such a dry board? His c/r is enough to ensure stacks get in by the river if ya'll coolered each other with sets so there really is no hand that should be 3betting this particular board.

My point wasnt neccesarily that we get purely bluffraised more when we C-bet with a weak tight losing image.More so that we get floated with a bigger frequenzy, people tend to peel one more with gutters, midpairs and that kind of stuff aka we get smaller amount of fold equity when we bluff C-bet.

I don't raise A8 suited from MP if I have a nitty, losing image. I definitely don't c-bet this board against two other players, especially when one will put the pressure on.

As played, just fold and move on. You didn't show weakness and he still raised, so he probably has something. Unless:

Also, how far apart were the folds to 3bets and the c-bet raise on flop? Are you sure you don't have some type of tell?

Your telling me you have a 3-betting range on a Q 4 3 flop vs. this villain.

Anyhow too much FPS.

Im xing and stabbing one and done on a lot of good turns for our range if it gets xed thru OTF esp

PF: Fold

F (62): SPR is ~16. Cbet is fine, although I'd make it $30. I could see a smart V check raising on this dry board that doesn't hit our range. Obviously, he knows that the 3 and the 4 do not hit us. In this spot, if we did have AQ, would we re-raise? I probably would not. So if we decide to re-raise him, what are we really representing? Not really anything, IMHO.

Also, why in the hell would be raise to $400 with nothing? That's close to half our stack with air, ranging that he has air here most of the time. I'd just fold.

If you don't like to fold, learn to float. Float vs. polarized range almost always>b/3b.

It's mega fancy and gets expensive though so you really need to know exactly how he's going to play the rest of the hand.

It's ok a majority of the time in spots like this to just say 'nice hand' and fold the best hand on the flop.

How are the players left to act ? Im not a fan of the preflop raise but I guess its fine. As played just fold no need to get fancy here.

I'm most likely checking this flop in MP with a player behind.

I'd be more likely to raise if V lead out on this flop. In general these slightly bigger c/r from Vs out of the blinds tend to be 67/56, gutters or SD type hands, so I think based on the sizing you can put in a raise to 300-325 and take it down a lot of the time.

Still a high risk play. Floating is interesting, agree it might be too fancy and might encourage more barrels since our hand would look like QJ/KQ.

fold pre esp w/ a losing image

agree