villain in this hand is a winning rec player who admittedly plays too many hands, but makes up for it with his skill. the first time i played with him was severall years ago when he raised in EP, i defended with 66, got stacked by 89o when his open ender hit against my set. he apologized for raising in ep with 89o.

Earlier in the session, i raised in EP with 57s UTG+1 to 25 (my standard raise at 2/5 to cover the $7 rake), two callers, v raises his button to 120, i call coz i'm a degen, both players call, i check a JT4 flop, next to act bets 100, next to act calls, villain jams, both players tank fold, he shows the table KQo

he is sitting on about 4K, i have around 1200, villain 1 has 110 and is on the phone with someone saying how he's leaving the casino soon

V 1 limps UTG+1, hero is next to act and raises to 30 with AA

one caller in between and villain flats the button, blinds get out of the way, v1 calls

pot 120 after drop, 4 players

QT2

v1 bets 25, hero raises to 100, fold, v1 callls and is all in, villain 295

What do you know about V1's play? Given he limped in EP and then called a raise with a trivial stack left he has to be bad but what sort of bad? How light do you raise V1 in this situation?

You didn't mention if V1 folded or not, he has to decide if he wants to put all his money in before you act. His stack is short enough it doesn't matter much. The only thing to note here is that villain shouldn't be on an air bluff because V1 has something and villain can't expect V1 to fold.

Given the action I'm not folding the flop, just calling. The questions are how aggressive to play later in the hand and if hero can find a fold at some point.

i fixed the post, v1 called

So, the pot is $615 and $195 to call (~3:1). Well, you're not folding.

I have questions: what does V1 think of your play? Could he be including AK, JJ in your range? How does he respond to your 3-bets?

I'm folding. Also villain's raise to 295 should precede v1's all in call.

I personally don't ever feel the need to ride AA like a barrel over Niagara Falls.

AA does get outflopped now and then. This looks like one of those times. Keep in mind that we'll probably have to call off our entire stack to find out.

Sigh-fold.

Well I'm not folding the flop to one raise.

Have you seen him raise top pair on the flop ever?

Sh*t spot for sure but with the shorty in there this feels a lot like an iso raise with top pair to me. The board is dry enough that I think most players would slow play their monsters here.

Has he raised to "see where he's at" in the past?

he isn't that type of player. he's good and he knows i'm a winning player as well...he's pretty much raping this table right now, he's got the two players who both apparently folded Jx in the example hand flummoxed, opening up his game, so he's loose on the button with calls and he's 3betting TT and QQ pf i think if he's doing that with KQo

but this isn't technically a single raise, i raised, then he raised, so it's a twice raised pot

also, this is a protected pot and most of this raise money will go to the side, and expect villain to be fully aware of this

Given all your descriptions of V1, most of his range is QTs, QTo & 22 (he would have open/raised with TT+), which means you're about a 4:1 dog. If you call, the pot will be about $800, with $1000 behind.

If he laid a trap, it's a damn good one and I would have fallen in it because I would call the $195 and reevaluate on the turn.

Gven the descriptions of the villain, his range is 22, QT AND KJ plus any random spazz.

OP, you posted 4 actions in this thread, 3 of them were mistakes.

Raising with 57s UTG, calling 3bet, then raising AA on the flop 4way.

Regardless of what happens with the AA hand, what will cost you the most money is the first two mistakes.

Yea, OK. Went back to the initial description of V1's action with KQ. Including KJ changes things quite a bit.

So, do we want to 3-bet the flop as a slight favorite (54:46), or call and reevaluate the turn? Given the descriptions, I doubt any tells will be of use as V1 is going to be engaged, no matter his holding.

I still think it's a call and reevaluate, but any reasonable raise commits Hero, so a 3-bet would need to be a shove.

I just don't know. It is an interesting problem though.