Unknown guy last night, apparently is a PLO reg at another poker room a few hours away. Seems to know what he’s doing. Not overagro. Limps along with speculative hands on a mostly loose passive preflop table; you know that typical 2/5. Definitely not a preflop LAG.
He doesn’t raise or call raises often so I give him a fairly standard range. He is up a little but hasn’t gotten to showdown yet.
I am playing TAG but have been called out for playing aggressively. I personally thought I was tight but against a table full of limpers, raising less than AA preflop is a cardinal sin.
Effective stacks 900.
HJ limps, I have 56hh in CO, raise to 25, V in B.B. calls, HJ folds.
Flop 6s7s9d, pot ~55
X/x
Turn 6c, pot 55
BB bets 25, I call
River 2h, pot 105
BB x, I bet 75, he makes it 275
Vs the general population this seems like an easy exploitative fold, as most river raises are super nutted. I don’t block any sets, and I unblock the busted FD, but I also think he barrels with a busted draw, as well as most other hands that he bluffs turn with.
10 value combos beat me, 3-77, 3-99, 1-22(if he got here like this rarely, I’ll give one combo), 1-96dd, 1- 76dd, 1-A6dd.
I need 30% to call the 200 to win 650. He needs to have 5 bluffs to barely break even. Bluffs could be 2-67s,2-78s, 2-97s. I don’t think he has busted FDs with this line.
Are you playing math here and calling or sticking with an exploitative population read and folding?


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Why didn’t you raise the turn?

dude, stop with the blockers.

why did you bet the river?

as played, instamuck.

Are you really asking why he bet trips on the river?

Why didnt you bet the flop?
Why didnt you raise the turn?

River is a very tough decision because of the way you played the rest of the hand. Your line looks like you have trash and although almost nobody check raise bluffs the river, this would a good spot for it because you look so weak. I cant help you Sir.

Because I felt I’d be over-repping with a raise on this board


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- because bottom pair on this board would cause me to have to fold to a lot of x/r

- because I felt it would over-rep my hand on this board


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What kind of flop were you looking to hit when you raised 65s? This is a pretty good one. You have a pair and a gutshot. Of course its bottom pair. That's what happens when you raise this trash.

How is raising the turn with trips overrepping your hand? You have a well disguised monster. Nobody is putting you on a 6 here.

Heres some tough love for you....you are nowhere near ready to raise hands like this. You dont play well enough post flop at this point.

Fair, I’ll take tough love over no love.

I’d prefer to be in heads up situations with this hand vs limping along or folding though, so I’m not going to stop isoing with these hands. I’d rather force myself to get better. That’s why I’m posting.

That being said I think this hand serves better to check back as I have a huge amount of hands to cbet that aren’t bottom pair, and I have non-made hands otf with less equity that serve as better bluffs.

Cbetting and getting raised off my equity on this wet a board seems bad to me. Curious why you think cbetting is better here when I have so many overpairs, TP+, FDs, and combo draws to cbet with.

The reason it felt overrepping is that it is the worst trips I can have here. Better trips often are boats, or A6s. A flopped straight by him is within the realm of possibility. I think it is ok to play some rivers here.


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I didn’t even count his straights as value raises in the op. I think that weights it more toward value with those.


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Id rather Cbet with what is most likely the best hand on the flop and PROTECT my equity against overcards....than to worry about getting check raised OFF OF my equity on the flop.

BB is much more likely to be calling preflop with Big aces, suited aces, or 2 broadway cards than he is with T8. YOu are head on the flop most of the time and need to bet to protect your equity.

If he happens to have a set or T8 and check raises you on the flop thinking you have a premium pocket pair, Id rather find out on the flop (and fold) than after I hit another 6 on the turn and get stacked.

The fact that your trip 6s is the worst trips that you can have is irrelevant. You are the preflop raiser and there is no way he thinks you have a 6. Ive stacked people many times with hands like yours when they tried to trap me by flatting preflop with AA-JJ.

A non c-bet followed by turn raise is going to look so full of **** that you will be called much lighter than usual. This is the time to build the pot.

I'd be cranking turn up to $100 and overbetting the river, especially if it's a brick.

Im on the fence as to a flop bet. You have the worst possible pair and a mediocre redraw. I would almost rather have AK here than 56, other than your 5 takes away some straight outs.

However you get the best turn card possible. You MUST raise this turn. His range is draw heavy. On a drier board sure, maybe its a slight over rep, but on this board you cant let him price in a draw.

The river is close. Other than your turn call this looks like you have air, so you could level yourself into a call. I think its a coin flip. His range is way wider than you think though, as he could have easily stabbed the turn with air.

Preflop is fine, a little on the loose side, but by no means spewy.

Flop is the easiest bet/fold in the world. We need protection but we don't mind folding to a raise, since even semibluffs will be ahead of us in equity. We mainly want to fold out overcards. $35.

Turn is a nice spot to raise, since it looks FoS.

River is a very tough spot against a x/r and is very read dependent. This is usually a bet/fold against 95% of players, but if you trust your read that villain can take this line as a bluff, then you can make the hero call. Your hand is effectively just a bluff catcher here with some blocker value, that's it.

Bet flop for reasons Mike said.

MUST MUST raise turn. Biggest mistake of the hand by far.

AP, I would call river because your hand is absurdly under-repped and he easily could just be raising with missed FD's because of the way you played the hand.

didn't see that. hard to read that weird wall of text

call river. His line makes no sense, but he's only doing it because he doesnt think your line makes any sense.

Uhm.....67s isn't a bluff here.

This.