Villain: 40ish MAWG. From his appearance I can tell that he isnt really used to playing this big. I overheard him talk to a guy and he is in vacation playing some poker. So far he ran up his £400 stack to about £1300 to start the hand. He has been playing 75%+ of hands and limp/calls with hands like K2ss, 67o etc. He is super loose pre but very passive both postflop and preflop. I saw him go limp/call with K2s, then go c/c on Ks5s2h, check through 8c, then check again river Qh and call river bet.

Hero image is pretty bad. Been playing agro and running bad. I have 3bet villain about 5 times now and he won every single hand so far. He could see me as being slightly tilted.

UTG has just arrived and played 1 orbit so far. Something about him makes me seem like he is tight.

$2/5 game $1300 eff.

UTG $20, Villain calls +1, Hero flats MP A K , 2 more calls. Flop ($100): K J 7 . Villain $45 only hero calls.

Turn ($190): K
Villain $65, Hero $200, He calls.

River ($590): 4
V check, Hero $500, he shoves $1100. $600 more to call to win $2190.

do we think there is the sliiiightest chance this guy who has been playing passive post is shoving KQo here?

I feel the described V has a boat here every single time.

Pre I would still 3bet.

Post flop looks good to me.


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gotta be right 21.5% of the time? Probably the sigh-iest of sigh fold vs this guy... Pretty awful/tilting when he c/jams river - I like how you played it post flop.

I don't mind the flat preflop but I probably 3! with our image to hope to iso V

I assume we don't give V credit for 44, so if he boated it was on the turn. Why only call with the boat then and c-r the river? Doesn't touristy to me; KJ, K7, JJ and 77 trapping you? If he was passive and scared of the nuts on the turn (not KJ), where's the confidence from now? Rainbow turn doesn't give you any flush draws and the straight draws would have been a weird turn raise.

I am very close to calling, and would want a live tell. How did he call the turn raise, did he watch the river fall, etc. Unless I get a nuts vibe from him, I'd be super tempted, tilted or not.

Bet less.

why? River sizing is great for fat value vs a villain who has every KXs and probably every KT/K9o+ combo in his range, I'd prefer to bet more than less.

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+1 obv. Why would we want to bet less? he has far more Kx then KJo obviously, and of 77 or K7s. We want max value

What a sick spot. idk man trust yo reads, or chalk it up to cooler. People like that sometimes randomly overplay hands especially if you seem aggro.

lol +1. In real time I probably call and consider it a cooler if I lose.

I'm finding a fold here.

When passive villains - especially passive villains who are playing at higher stakes than usual - take this sort of highly aggressive line, we are rarely good with trips.

I think there is a slight chance the villain is overplaying KQ or AK here. But it's far more likely they boated up on the turn. KJ, JJ, and 77 all make sense here.

However, if he is on vacation playing poker, it's definitely possible he just isn't that good and is overvaluing trips. So it's a tough fold to make. But it just feels like KQ should always only call your river bet. There is no value in villain check-raising all in here with $600 more behind with KQ because he is only getting called by better.

ohh holdem legend itt . I did end up puke folding and snap left lol

Yea really this. Everytime I make a hero fold vs. an unknown I get shown the most ridiculous overvalued hands that were bizarrely / horribly played. I'm talking like getting shown AA here.

yeah but the K2ss hand he played that I described in the OP was played vs me after I showed a propensity to be agro. Im not really convinced he would play AA like this here.

Only 15 boats possible
3x 77, 3x JJ, 3x KJ, 3xK7 3x K4.
Getting 3.65:1 on our money, we need 4.1 combos of other hands. So even if he is doing this with KQo we still need 1 combo of something else.

In game, I'm never folding if I have an agro image, but these thing are hard to judge without proper context and idea of game flow.

But also, there's a difference imo between caling with K4s and K4o in the minds of a lot of poker players. And if he's the slightly smarter type who won't call with K4o/K7o and your suits are right, there aren't any K4/L7 in his range at all. So then we're down to 9 combos of hands that beat us. So we only need 2.5 total combos, so I def can't fold.

KQ and AK alone are enough to make this a call. End thread\

AP Cannot find a fold with this hand and this pot odds..

Do you have to raise turn in a WA WB situation on dry board?
For sure there are slightly more combos of KT KQ AK K9s than KJ JJ 77 (let s put aside K4s )

MAWG suck bet has small bluff range usually ...! so it is a guessing game I could prefer to pot control the showdown

by calling turn i can keep his PPs in his range and get a safe value bet OTR

Got some insider information that made me think this is a fold, but I think there are many games in which this is a call, more so than ones that are a fold.

This sure looks like he has a boat. I would just (sigh) fold and wait for another spot to get this maniac's money.

call

where did that come from?

I don't get advocating b/f otr $500 and not call the $600? If we're afraid of a c/r, why bet so much??

I didnt think for 1 sec he would c/r obv and wanted to get max value from all the Kx that he has. He l/called K2ss and plays almost all Kx combos...chances are he wasnt going to c/r.

I don't care about fancy stuff like ranges and how can he possibly have KJ because he would have played it so badly/passively.

If your read on this villain is accurate, and I don't have any reason to think it's not (you were there, after all) this ought to be an easy fold. He never really bets, yet he fires out on turn then check-raises the river all in? He just always has it. Doesn't matter how much sense it makes for him to have it.