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2/5 facing river check-raise after three barrels and getting there OTR 2/5 facing river check-raise after three barrels and getting there OTR

02-03-2020 , 10:13 PM
The limper in this hand is a huge fish, limping every hand and spazzing postflop. BB is a solid reg. The effective stack is ~1k.

Hero has QT in MP

Preflop ($7):
UTG+2 limps, Hero raises to $25, BB calls, UTG+2 folds

Flop ($62): KJ4
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls

Turn ($142): 5
BB checks, Hero bets $125, BB calls

River ($392): 9
BB checks, Hero bets $260, BB goes all-in for $870

I think my preflop iso and flop cbet are standard. OTT my plan was as follows: bet a sizing that allows me to fold to a check-raise. If BB calls and checks river (and I miss my draw), I was going to bet non-spade and non-heart rivers with a small sizing, to fold out his missed A-high and K-high draws, bluff with a bigger sizing on a heart, and give up on a spade.

What do you think about my sizing on this particular river, and most importantly, what is the play after the check-jam?
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02-03-2020 , 10:21 PM
I think the river sizings ok, maybe a bit smaller. Id x back turn on double flush KJ high board. Fold river ap

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02-03-2020 , 10:24 PM
Assuming villain is a station, is it correct to bet our OESD on the turn?
I'm always hesitant about betting draws versus stations in these spots

On the river, I'm probably not folding versus described villain
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02-03-2020 , 10:37 PM
HH where he "spazzed" post flop?

Puke folding river as played. Seems like he's favored more towards Kx or AT than missed spades.
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02-03-2020 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wewa925
HH where he "spazzed" post flop?
I was talking about the limper who folded preflop in this hand, but here you go:
Limp-called J5s preflop, and check-raised big OTT on 2345, no flushdraw. Funny thing, won at showdown after x/x river.
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02-03-2020 , 11:03 PM
I would call with all your flushes, QT and KK with a heart.

This hand is really close but don't mind the tough fold if you haven't seen him take this line as a bluff.
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02-03-2020 , 11:13 PM
What are you targeting with your sizing? V is either going to have missed spades, a flush, or Kx or Jx that probably won’t call a large bet on river. The turn bet is kind of spewy since it doesn’t change the board and therefore V is unlikely to fold and you only have 4 clean outs.

V is most likely to continue turn with combo draws and Kx, but if he’s solid he won’t have the hands you want him to have like AK KQ KTo. So his range should be heavily weighted towards combo draws.

I’m betting $100 on river. You can get called by Kx. You can get raised by spades and still call, and you won’t get stacked by the backdoor flush. Against a random fish I’d probably go $160-190

V’s only bluffs are likely to be KhX and something like 9Tss
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02-04-2020 , 06:43 PM
...and given description he may not even realize he’s bluffing with some of ^^^ hands. But yeah, a smaller bet certainly creates a number of better showdown scenarios, as does a check - which is what I would have done against someone who prob has very few check backs (even w Kx).
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02-04-2020 , 07:25 PM
Fish is gone preflop, we are playing against solid reg BB no?


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02-04-2020 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thedoud156
Fish is gone preflop, we are playing against solid reg BB no?


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Yes, that is the case. My original post might be a bit misleading, given that I give the fish a more detailed description, but the villain in this hand is a solid reg.
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02-04-2020 , 10:55 PM
Would your solid reg go for thin value with 2p or set OTR or AhX bluffs? (Have you ever seen him do anything like that?). If yes, enough of those combos math wise vs flushes to call $610 to win $2132 imo.



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02-05-2020 , 11:36 AM
V is going to have mostly two big card hands in his range flatting from BB, suited broadways in particular since his pps probably just fold flop. You aren't getting many folds on that turn and you don't block any of the FDs, and obv it's pretty nasty to get xr on turn which can happen on double FD boards so I would check behind and barrel my FDs and value.

On river it's a clear vb and size looks ok. I don't see a lot of unsuited hands getting here with AhX to bluff river... AhKx prob 3bs pre, AhJx maybe, AhTx probably doesn't make it this far. He's got some random spaz spades but that would make a poor bluff hand as he blocks us having spades. I fold river.
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