Table has been pretty loose and with good action. Most players don't like to fold and many flops go 5-6 ways.

Villain 1: Mid-40's Asian male. Sat down about 20 minutes earlier and I haven't got much of a read on him yet. He seems to know Villain 2 as they have been talking/joking around with each other, so he is likely a reg at the game. Stack around $550.

Villain 2: Mid-40's Asian male, very LAG and likes to gamble. Loves to see flops and has called just about every raise I've made during the session with hands as speculative as 43. Stack around $500.

Hero: Likely seen as TAG to Villain 2, I haven't been super involved in the last 20 minutes so guessing Villain 1 has no real read on me. Stack is $650.

Villain 1 limps UTG, folds to me in MP and I raise to $25 with JJ. Folds around to Villain 2 in BB who calls. Villain 1 pretty quickly re-raises to $100.

Action on Hero...

Fold, readless ... UTG L/RR usually = KK+ ... especially when done quickly.

Yup. The demographics make it closer than usual, but I still want better reads than "he's Asian and friendly with a LAG."

Are we also folding QQ in this spot? The pot is $150 and it's $75 more to call.

Yes, i sigh fold both JJ and QQ here. The price direct price doesent really matter in this spot: what matters is what villains range is likely to be. We are setmining here and drawing to 2 outs- so not getting the right price. Also its critical that we just "dont call to see a flop", and cant get away from our JJ/QQ when the flop comes like 2-2-5 or 4-5-10 levelling ourself to stackoff.

If i havent seen any frequenzy at all regarding the limp/reraise (meaning the player have done this move several times or at least more than 1 time), then i always treat it as being KK/AA.

The move being done from UTG and done fast (like the move seems preplanned with a monster), makes it an even more slam dunk instafold.

Easy fold in this situation. If he bluffed you, he'll be so thrilled that he'll show you his bluff. Then you can adjust.

This

when done quickly is's almost always ace ace

Not deep enough unfortunately to call here. Close but not there. And I also fold QQ as well.

Thanks all for the thoughts. I did fold, and V2 folded, so I don't know Villain had. But I didn't see him limp/re-raise again for the next two hours so KK or AA seems likely.

I mentioned the hand to a friend (who plays far more LAG) and he liked a call in this spot. Good to get confirmation the fold is the clear play.

You're raise of 5x is easy enough fold with JJ because for the additional $75 you have to pretty much smash the flop with a set or 8-9-T. Everything else still leaves a lot room for you to have to be guessing mostly. You can easily get stacked off by QQ+ on a T-high flop that doesn't bring any other over cards and never be sure where you are in the hand every time your money goes in the middle.

Deeper stacks or a smaller-sized 3B! can you give you better odds, but current info and lack of more data forces me to make a disciplined fold regardless of how likely I think I might be ahead.

If he does this to you or someone else with any frequency or pattern, you can adjust accordingly.

I have to reluctantly agree, because there are still enough flops that he can bet, both for value or as a bluff, on which I have to fold...and even if I float, a bad turn does the same thing and now I'm more irked by not getting to showdown.

Your JJ turns into a small pocket pair facing a l/rr. I'd say you need effective stacks of about 1000 for you to call the 100 pre.

So we're folding KK too then? If we're putting villain on KK+. Seems a little presumptuous.