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08-12-2018 , 09:03 PM

twisting

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 44

2/5 500max.

Hero - the most aggro image at the table, covering BB
BB - Passive tight rec player, been stuck whole the game while I was playing with him so that looked like on tilt with flushing up.

Pre-Flop
Hero opens 20 on +3 with 10

, HJ calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop 5

<80>
Hero bets 30, BB calls.

Turn 10

<140>
BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB calls.

River 7

<320>
BB shoves 220, Hero ?

What should hero do there facing an annoying shove with Top set?

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08-13-2018 , 01:48 AM

ChrisV

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Bet more flop, you have multiple opponents, board isn't super dry and your hand is hard to handle on basically any turn card above a 4.

Easy fold on river. If he had something strong OTT he'd have shoved then. If he has some unconnected hand like A9 I would imagine he folds turn. If he has a connected hand he either has a straight or some two pair hand that doesn't need to bluff.

Edit: I guess he could be value shoving two pair which would be annoying but I kind of doubt it.

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08-13-2018 , 04:21 AM

HomelessPizza

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I would call. You only need 30% equity and you can beat some value hands that V backed into OTR (77 and 2p) and is afraid you will check back with QQ+..I also think some of his straight combos just go with it and jam turn [like JT], leaving more combos of 2p OTR

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08-13-2018 , 04:57 AM

wj94

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Pot the turn. As played V can have all sorts of 6x and Jx hands so I'm probably folding. When passive tight rec player jams on a 4-straight board, they usually have a straight.

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08-13-2018 , 06:05 AM

ZuneIt

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Big bet OTR by a Rec indicates strength, unless he's really on entitlement tilt in a bad way.
As noted by others: bet more otf & ott.

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08-13-2018 , 07:08 AM

sisyphusonroids

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I’m interested in the flop bet sizing. What was the thought process to the small bet?

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08-13-2018 , 08:07 AM

TheGodson

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Ughhh, this sucks so much, but folding is probably best.

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08-13-2018 , 09:03 AM

samo

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

I'd fold.

Passive, tight rec could have taken this line with JJ. Doubt he's going for thin value with worse, probably betting turn with 99/88.

$65 or so on flop.

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08-13-2018 , 09:55 AM

microbiologist

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I’d bet more on flop AND turn. Would make the river a trivial call if he’s still there and shoves. The odds would justify it.

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08-13-2018 , 10:37 AM

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novice123

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Like others have said I like a bigger flop bet (which means a bigger turn bet), as played I think you're basically always looking at a straight from the BB. Fold

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08-13-2018 , 12:01 PM

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twitcherroo

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Clearly more on flop, more on turn.

That being said I think on my A game the river is a call. V has a lot of rivered 2 pair in his range. He could have easily had you on AK and was calling you light thinking his one pair is good. Now, he thinks he got bailed out against an overpair. Now, all of his rivered 2 pair hands have additional range that straightened out. V could also be making a move because clearly the 7 is far better for him than for you.

For $220 into $320 i’m Calling. Super thin but I don’t hate. Of course i’m Sticky.

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08-13-2018 , 07:34 PM

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ChrisV

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Originally Posted by twitcherroo

But

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Originally Posted by twisting

BB - Passive tight

tho.

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08-14-2018 , 08:05 AM

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twitcherroo

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

But

tho.

Yeah, it's not great.... Folding can't be that bad of a move. H also mentions 'on tilt' somewhere in the V description as well so I can still see the rivered 2p playing it this way.

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08-14-2018 , 11:28 AM

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donkatruck

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If you make the flop 75, it puts 230 in the pot on the turn with $200ish behind. Shove.

By betting $30 you are likely making calling with any pair or even a gutshot not a mistake. We want to punish mistakes not erase them.

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08-14-2018 , 11:50 AM

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shorn7

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I bet at least $60 on that flop and probably closer to $120 on the turn.

River is a puke...$540 to call $220 or 2.45-1, so need to be good 1 out of 3.45x or 29% equity. If flop were two flush and it missed, I would be more apt to call but since only BD diamonds miss I think it is a close fold. Our hand is the same as AT at this point, pure bluff catcher. We beat all other sets, but I think we would have heard from them OTT. We also block JT which makes sense for V here, but 76ss maybe makes sense too. I just don't see a big enough bluffing range for V to make this a profitable call. I would say 80%+ of his range is str8's for value.

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