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One doesn't have to be exclusively an online or live player. I consider myself both.

"Live crushers" without an online background almost always have super exploitable styles that do well vs fish but don't work vs players with strong fundamentals. And online players who aren't used to live aren't going to make the right adjustments to crush right away, or may not have the patience to sit there and fold for 5 hours when the cards don't come. There is always another hand a couple of seconds away online, but being able to fold for 5 hours without spewing is a surprisingly underrated ability.

In a vacuum, yes, online players are always going to be better, but if you say stuff like "I can beat high stakes live if I wanted to" but don't, then lol joke's on you, because if you could why aren't you doing it already? Either you can't or you choose not to make more money which is more lol.

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Okay, maybe I exaggerated when I meant crushing any live table, but I'd definitely beat it for a decent winrate starting out. Esp when I know how live poker plays after roaming these forums for a # of years. And ofc over time & through practical experience, then crush.

Joke's on you because I'm not old enough to enter a casino for another 1 more year. Pretty lol and false assumption about me, like most of your other ones. If you're just gonna lol at my young age, I don't have anything else to add.

Also, ever heard of BRM? Even if I could, I obviously can't take 35BI for mid-stakes and jump into a high-stakes live game where the needed bankroll is obv much higher to avoid risk of ruin.

Last edited by Minatorr; 06-06-2017 at 09:04 PM.

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06-06-2017 , 09:11 PM

#102

Big Perm

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Originally Posted by Avaritia

If he is 3betting linear hands like JTs our equity is better realized with a 4b. This is because with JTs, position, and initiative, he's just going to destroy us immediately on 70% of flops. Even in spots where we have him crushed with a hand like AQo he's just going to win this one more often than you'd think bc position + initiative is an incredibly powerful force.

This is one of the bigger disconnects between online and live, live folks don't realize how merged 3bets are online... and online folks don't realize how value heavy 3bets are live.

That's why most of the time we can have a very tight continuing range live vs. a 3 bet and be correct to do so. However here vs. villain description I would 4b.

You'll often see online guys saying "wtf 4 bet" with a hand like AK because they have simply memorized how to play 1 game type, instead of actually understanding the fundamentals of the game.

This could be all outdated at this point bc from what I can tell solvers are stationy pre with alot of their range and seem to want to see turns and rivers more.

This is such good advice. Thanks for posting.

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06-06-2017 , 09:20 PM

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pocketzeroes

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Originally Posted by SABR42

I think you are very misguided. Unless you play in very soft $2/5 games, it's just not true that no one 3 bets.

Pretty much the first thing I look for at a table is which bad regs or wannabe pros are getting out of line pre. The "next logical progression" whatever that means is not becoming looser, or else the top players would all be really really loose and that's not the case.

Yeah obviously people 3bet... basically everyone 3bets KK+, almost everyone 3bets QQ, most people 3bet AK a lot of the time, etc... But most 2/5 players do not have any kind of polarized or merged light 3betting range. And at some tables there is just very little to no light 3betting going on.

I think it's beyond obvious that we should start to add hands to a tight preflop range as our game improves or as we face weaker competition, especially when deep. And *especially* live when we are time constrained and can't just add tables.

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06-06-2017 , 09:21 PM

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SABR42

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Originally Posted by Minatorr

I don't lol at anyone's age, but that would explain your ego, self-righteous attitude, and immature behavior in general.

Being a douche won't get you very far in life. When I was your age I thought I was the **** too.

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06-06-2017 , 10:22 PM

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Minatorr

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5,235

It's funny how you think im a douche/egotistic person when you're known for those characteristics here on the forums.

Fyi I dont start **** with other posters here unless they start attacking me. So yeah, call me a douche with an ego but im not the type of person to sit back and let people roast me, esp when they suck at poker (not saying you do, but others). And no, i dont think im the ****. And if anything, you're the one who still thinks he is. Stop trying to project your own personality onto mine

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