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02-26-2015 , 01:37 AM

redrex003

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 179

Effective $900

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Villian super loose spewy bad young black kid, no regard to position, will limp call with all sorts of junk ect, very sticky postflop he once cold called my 3bet with Q5cc from his straddle. He's losing tonight and frustrated

Villian raises $20 UTG+1 1 caller in MP2 I make it $85 from MP3 only Villian calls

($190) Q108r Villian donks $135 Hero???

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02-26-2015 , 01:48 AM

turtle82

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 897

fold and wait for a different spot, which shouldn't be long

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02-26-2015 , 02:53 AM

RoyHobbs

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 286

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Originally Posted by redrex003

Effective $900

Hero solid TAG image

Villian super loose, no regard to position, will limp call with all sorts of junk ect, very sticky postflop

Villian raises $20 UTG+1 1 caller in MP2 I make it $85 from MP3 only Villian calls

($190) Q108r Villian donks $135 Hero???

How far are you willing to go with AK off ? What range did you put V on:
A. His opening raise
B. His call of your reraise

Lets discount AA / KK and for arguments sake AK also, as he would have repopped you PF. Lets also discount 22-66 in V's calling your raise. That would leave us with 77-QQ, A-T+,K-T+,Q-T+. The flop hits your V's range pretty well. If he has A8/A10 or AQ and you call the next Ace that falls is counterfeited. Are you willing to call this flop investing a bit over 20% of your starting stack ? It seems like unless you hit your gut shot you won't really know where you stand in this hand.

Folding seems like the best option.

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02-26-2015 , 09:51 AM

ohmyrage

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 877

This flop is horrible to float with. Your draw to the nuts also is one of the scarriest cards for even a 2 pair hand. Also his open and call is more indicative of AQ/KQ type hands that even if you hit your over's you may be dead. If the 8 was actually a 2, I would float but its just too hard to get paid off if you hit your gutshot unless he has a 9

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02-26-2015 , 10:14 AM

pocketzeroes

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Sucks, but there's no way you can profitably call or raise here. Just chalk it up to being at the bottom of your range on this flop and move on.

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02-26-2015 , 02:42 PM

OSUTexan

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Just let it go and wait for a better spot...

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02-26-2015 , 02:54 PM

Koko the munkey

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I've lost more money bluffing black guys and hispanic guys than any other single player type. These guys just do NOT fold, no matter how obvious it is what you have, no matter how obvious it is that they're beat.

A donk bet from one of these guys is 2pr+.

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02-26-2015 , 03:55 PM

beauvanlaanen

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,487

Fold. If V is spewing you can get his chips later.

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02-26-2015 , 06:52 PM

7weeks2days

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 897

Folding here for sure

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02-26-2015 , 07:02 PM

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Mr. Fug

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Originally Posted by Koko the munkey

black guys and hispanic guy are not a player type.

"these guys just don't fold" is pretty silly when referencing race....
I know what you are saying, but it's not their race that influences this...

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02-26-2015 , 07:48 PM

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$FishWreck$

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 477

That's right. Tell it like it is, Fug. And shame to those of you out there who think Asian V's chase draws...

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02-26-2015 , 07:55 PM

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$FishWreck$

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 477

Truthfully, I don't get to play against many black players where I live. The ones I do see seem to play like old and late middle aged white guys. No aversion to folding there.

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02-26-2015 , 07:56 PM

#13

Below Zero

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 848

PF: Uh...I must be missing something here. What's your hand? Or is that the point of the thread?

Edit: Nevermind. I see you chose to be tricky and put the description in the title for us to figure out.

Last edited by Below Zero; 02-26-2015 at 08:02 PM.

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02-26-2015 , 10:31 PM

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redrex003

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 179

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Originally Posted by Below Zero

Sorry ya AKo

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02-27-2015 , 11:42 AM

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Koko the munkey

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Originally Posted by Mr. Fug

black guys and hispanic guy are not a player type.

"these guys just don't fold" is pretty silly when referencing race....
I know what you are saying, but it's not their race that influences this...

Maybe your experience varies - I was just sharing mine.

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