It's a soul-read. He knows every A is calling, yet he makes a pot-size bet. There are some players I call and some I fold to. Unfortunately, it's up to you and not much we can do without being there. Would he check an A on the turn expecting you to bet?

I guess with the way the hand was played in an aggro game and without being there it's a call.

We were expecting two streets of value from this hand. there is nothing about his bet that changes that.

Our checking the turn invited this river bet. Weather he is bluffing, betting thin value, or has a monster doesn't really matter.

We call.

This line is MUCH different than if we had bet pot on the turn, and he had raised. Or even if we had bet the turn, and then he leads pot into us on the river.

Air, Jx, Ax, Sets are all fairly equally weighted. We win 50% of the time.

Well played.

If you check QQ here, what hands are you betting again with on turn? Only Ax?

This is probably the line I like best. Doubt he's calling turn and river bets with hands that you beat. So I like to check this turn and bet a lot of rivers. He can find a hero call with Jx or 10s.

Edit: Just saw rest of hand. As played I'm folding to that PSB.

We checked turn to call a river bet (or bet if checked to). No reason to deviate from that plan.

your betting turn with any ace or boat - at least you should - unless he is a total spaz monkey.

Ask yourself - would you ever check a boat or ace on this turn this deep?

Well, my reasoning for the check OTT is that I feel I'm ahead (which I would feel the same way with a boat or an A), and I am fairly unlikely to be drawn out on (would be less likely with a boat, bout the same with an A), and I think too much of his range folds OTT (including any bluffs, unless he's a spaz monkey, which I don't think he is, although he is aggro), so wouldn't that same reasoning hold if I had a boat? Or do we just bet cause "I haz boat, must get paid the few times he is strong enough!!" Those times take care of themselves, don't they?

I guess what I'm wondering is whether a boat is a 3 streets of value hand on this dryish board with our opponent checking to us twice and the A pairing (kinda the worst card for a boat)?

call if hes capable of bluffing and hope he didnt hit his 2outer OTR

I would check this turn against certain players with an A or boat because you will never get paid unless they also have a really big hand, which is rare -- we would have a lot of their outs, too. In this hand, we don't have a lot of their outs.

Edit: I might bet JJ or 66 hoping they hand an A, but I doubt I'd bet AJ or A6 or AK/AQ if I thought they'd fold.

I usually check OTF but I think the bet/check/call line is great against a habitual floater to induce OTR.

Without being there I'd say folding to the PSB OTR is a good default. It looks like fat value to me.

you don't want to fall victim of hoping he might bet if you check a big hand on the turn. Just bet the hand yourself and hope he has a hand big enough to pay you off. Checking this turn with a boat would not be a good play unless villain is a total SPAZ. Against most competent players - you want to bet this turn with a boat or ace.

That being said - your range is generally capped.

What did he do OTR?

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Completely agree with this.

Long time, Buster. Hope all is well.

I like your hand as played. Do you know if V is capable at hand reading? I ask because as someone posted above, your range is pretty capped when you check the turn. If Villain can recognize that your range is capped, maybe QQ-KK a decent amount, and can put us in tough spots as a result, then I could consider calling here sometimes. You did say V is aggressive, too.

Otherwise, I feel like this is generally a fold. The only read you have in OP that is close to river play is that V gets serious on the turn. I guess with that in mind, again, I'm leaning towards folding here.

Oops, missed it. Thanks.

Good to see you too, Strongrad. By your location I'm guessing you're doing that MDLive thing? Hope all is going well with you.

Well, I guess we have gotten all we could out of this. I think against this V on this board, I do check a boat OTT, but maybe i wasn't fully clear when I said this game was aggro. I meant any sign of weakness is usually pounced on.

Results are below for those that are curious...

Well played. You do cap your range when you check the turn. There's nothing wrong with capping your range when your villain can bluff and you call down with a medium holding.

I would not check back a boat or Ax on the turn. You have a strong hand that you should bet for value.