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07-31-2016 , 07:13 PM

Madian

journeyman

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 200

It's the third time I play 2-5, I usually grind 1-2.

Hero (600ish £) white male late 20s
V1 (23000ish £ lol) old man with LOT of money (not afraid to lose them)
V2 (800ish £) French young guy who sat at the table for not longer than 1 hour, pretty aggressive pre and post

H raises QQ utg 15 V1 calls, all folds, V2 calls.

Flop (65) is KQ4r - V2 on sb checks, H bet 45, both calls.

Turn (200) is a T - V2 checks, H bets 130, both calls.

River (590) is a brick I don't even remember, V2 checks, Hero?

Comments on other streets?

Ps. I'm not that good on HR so if I missed something just ask..

Last edited by Madian; 07-31-2016 at 07:38 PM.

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07-31-2016 , 07:32 PM

BirdsallSa

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Knowing the river would be nice.

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07-31-2016 , 07:39 PM

Madian

journeyman

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 200

Well, good thing I said I sucked in HR in advance.. lol.

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07-31-2016 , 08:03 PM

Pony_law

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 242

Hero shoves and rappes the table if beat and says nice hand.

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07-31-2016 , 08:16 PM

iraisetoomuch

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 37,490

Pre is a bit small at most 2/5 tables. We can normally go $20 for more value. But whatever. Nothing to be too worried about.

Flop bet is good.

When we get 2 callers on the flop I'm going bigger on the turn. $15 - $160 here I think.

I'm torn between shoving the river and betting $175.
I think I shove.

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07-31-2016 , 09:33 PM

suited fours

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,143

pre & post flop fine

turn more, you want to set up a comfortable river shove

but with 2 callers on the turn, now we can shove river anyways

tell AJ wp

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07-31-2016 , 10:11 PM

Frenic

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 93

Pot the river if V1 or V2 has AJ such is life.

Umm I am assuming 23K for V1 is off a bit.

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07-31-2016 , 11:11 PM

wj94

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Bad turn card, with you having QQ they have a lot of gutters in their range since they both probably don't have Kx. That said you aren't deep enough to be folding at any point so I'd just auto-shove normally but it's going to be kind of hard to get a call from Kx and even KT might fold to a shove. Maybe betting $150ish is better since you should usually get that Kx call and if one of them shoves there's a good chance they have a straight. Close one.

On a side note definitely raise more pre.

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08-01-2016 , 01:46 AM

Tilty_McDonkawhirl

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 962

With two callers pre, how is the pot at $65?

I understand pot geometry, size manipulation thereof well, but I'm not a sizing EXPERT. And my 2/5 experience is limited to a handful of sessions, although I've played lots of 1/2 and I have friends who tell me all about 2/5 sessions, and I'm book/forum educated.

That said, it all looks fine to me, although as iraisetoomuch said, $20 would be more on the side of standard sizing (Isn't it bull**** you can't make it $17???)

River seems like a pretty easy Jambo. It's just over 2/3 pot. That's standard. If you lost lolvariance. If they folded endlessly berate them as to why they are bad.

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08-01-2016 , 06:42 AM

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Madian

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I push and they both folded. Old man said he had K4 and the way he played seemed the truth, French guy clained he had set of 4. He said he didn't call cause I looked confident. He's a bad reader 'cause I was ****ting myself for a probable AJ that might be there sometimes.

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08-01-2016 , 06:44 AM

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Madian

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Wasn't sure if a push was correct, maybe with a vbet one of the two would have called.

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08-01-2016 , 07:22 AM

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Kler

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Given the action and runout there aren't really many huge hands out there.

AJ, you have QQ, 44, maybe TT... expecting KK to raise pre. 2pair's are out there but these could well fold to a shove.

So it's hard for the river shove to be called, but if V1 has tons of money and will call light then go for it. Also betting more on the turn would help. As played either shove or, if you don't think 2pair is calling, I would consider betting in the 180-220 range to try to get a call from the 2pairs and Kx.

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08-01-2016 , 09:22 AM

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MikeStarr

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Originally Posted by Madian

I wouldve bet $200 on the river. If someone folded 44 they are terrible. For folding, for not raising somewhere, and for telling you they folded a set.

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