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There are more enjoyable things to do in life than attempting to play 40bb poker profitably.

The only way we play low pps or scs with only 40bb is if they limp to us in the bb.

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

Incorrect.

The first sentence may well be correct though.

OK... if we're in the BB with a small pp and there is a raise to 3BBs followed by 3 calls, then we can call the additional two BBs and set mine.

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01-04-2018 , 09:46 AM

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my first post about shove/fold, isn't by any means a hard fast rule, as mike pointed out. maybe for OP it should be, since he seems extremely new to poker and getting into pots postflop is just going to be a problem, an experienced player could play a SS strategy in a live game and not shove/fold. after some time at the table a descent player will be able to tell if limped pots will generally stay limped or opened pots will generally be 3!. they would then adjust accordingly, playing speculative hands postflop when the opportunities present themselves and not just being a mindless robot to shove/fold

Now we have some sanity in this thread.

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01-04-2018 , 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

Now we have some sanity in this thread.

Could you elaborate on what your view is and why? For example, with 40bb at low stakes live, would you have a pre-flop flat-calling range in LP vs a single EP raise from a loose player?

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01-04-2018 , 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogyong

Could you elaborate on what your view is and why? For example, with 40bb at low stakes live, would you have a pre-flop flat-calling range in LP vs a single EP raise from a loose player?

Sure I would. If hes loose and raising from EP, why would I want to shove preflop with a premium hand and let him fold? If he raises with 66 or KT or A8s and out flops my AA/KK so be it, but Im not going to shove $200 over his $20 raise and let him fold everything. Id rather shove just about any flop after he puts more money in than shove preflop. I might even call his flop bet on certain flops and then get it in on the turn.

You arent deep enough to worry about him raising with something like 65s and flopping 2 pair.

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01-10-2018 , 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

If hes loose and raising from EP, why would I want to shove preflop with a premium hand and let him fold?

I'm not sure they fold 99+/AJs+ to a raise from a 40bb stack but ok... other than AA/KK, what other hands would you have in your calling range in that same spot?

And how would you add small pocket pairs and suited connectors into your range?

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01-10-2018 , 09:46 AM

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You think people playing 2/5 open to $20 with AJ and then call a $200 all in very often? Also, you said he was loose and raising from EP. To me that means he can be a lot wider than AJ/99.

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01-11-2018 , 04:29 PM

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You think people playing 2/5 open to $20 with AJ and then call a $200 all in very often? Also, you said he was loose and raising from EP. To me that means he can be a lot wider than AJ/99.

I'm saying that in a 2/5 live game with a starting stack of 200, you're essentially limited to playing a very tight range of premium hands, that it makes sense to play those hands aggressively and that it rarely makes sense to play small pairs or small suited connectors.

You'll often encounter spots where there is a raise from a loose player to 25 followed by two calls and it will make sense for hero to e.g. shove with TT+/AQs+ and to fold everything else.

You seem to disagree with this view but you've not clarified what part you disagree with and why.

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01-11-2018 , 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogyong

I'm saying that in a 2/5 live game with a starting stack of 200, you're essentially limited to playing a very tight range of premium hands, that it makes sense to play those hands aggressively and that it rarely makes sense to play small pairs or small suited connectors.

You'll often encounter spots where there is a raise from a loose player to 25 followed by two calls and it will make sense for hero to e.g. shove with TT+/AQs+ and to fold everything else.

You seem to disagree with this view but you've not clarified what part you disagree with and why.

That part I do agree with. When the pot is going obviously be HU you dont have to just shove or fold.

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