Hero $1000 CO
Villain 1 $1200 HJ
Villain 2 $600 sb


I'm on the co with AhJh 3 limpers to the HJ (30ish white kid, controlled lag with wide range excluding garbage, he's always looking for opportunities). He raises to $30, I call (not that I love AJ, but with his image I figure im better than him at this point and I have position, I also felt I would see a flop without a reraise situation based on the flow of the table and the type of players to act after me). Btn folds SB calls and so does 2 limpers.

Flop comes Kh10d8s

checks through, I check, with us 5 deep on the flop I order to check my guy shot and avoid being trapped and raised.

The turn comes a 7c

now I have an oesd. The small blinds opens for $40 ( to sum it up, this player making this bet in this spot means he's weak or just trying to steal for cheap), folds to Villain 2 in the HJ, he thinks for a few seconds and just calls ( to sum this up, he has a marginal hand that he wants to go to SD, if he was strong or had a decent draw he would raise, I figure this is a good spot for a semi now that I have information from the remaining players in the hand, and I have a decent draw, I raise to $145, sb folds and villain 2 thinks for over a minute then slides his chips in and calls.

River is a 5c

Villain 2 takes a second than gives it a slow check, i figure there are several combinations of hands i can represent now including several straights, 2pair and a set. I smoothly stack my chip and bet $150, to make it seem like a value bet that also isn't extremely cheap, and one that looks like I want a call and not trying to push. Villain thinks about it for over two minutes and then.....…


Let me know what you guys think, good bluff, bad bluff, what do you put him on? I'll give results after some feedback, thanks.

Yeah, seems like a good spot. It seems as though Villain isn't very strong and not too many draws came in for him if he were on a draw. I feel as though he would have raised the turn if he had a hand worth protecting, so I doubt he has a set or 2 pair. I think that I would have bet a bit bigger on the river to make sure that he folds JTs, QTs or weakish K types of hands. Well it depends, really, because I would be trying to fold out 10x and weak K at best so I would bet whatever I thought would make him fold those types of hands. Betting bigger also makes it more difficult for him to reraise bluff you on the river.

Fine spot. Not too dangerous board. Though if you are serious about repping a big hand, mostly J9/random 2p I'd bet a little bigger on the river. More like $250. He won't have enough let to bluff.

3 bet pre standard.
bet flop - standard

As played, you derailed terribly on the river. This bet gets called by many Tx hands.

Great spot to make that play. I'm guessing villain will fold a 10 or a weak K here the majority of the time. If he called you on the river with a 10, then the bet should have been much bigger. Either way, solid thinking.

First off, when writing your posts don't tell us what the actions mean in your head. Just give your reads before the hand and give us the action. For example, when you tell us that Villain's call indicated a weak hand or draw, it is going to bias the responses you get. People are just going to tell you what you want to hear (that it was a good spot to bluff).

With that said, I do like the spot. Although I would have made the river sizing a bit more. Villain is getting pretty good odds to call and since he seems like a decent player, he might also recognize that it is a good spot for you to bluff.

tl;dr Write your OP better to not give biased answered. I like the spot.

Young kids love to hero in spots like this. Don't like the bluff unless you go all in.

I think you should just bet the flop as a bluff. Once you check the flop, that kid is just not gonna believe you from then on.

Ok, I see what your saying with me being bias, I didn't think about that, but I did that on purpose to relay my read , not that my read was correct, I could have been wrong and he could have been slow playing a monster. But I will take that into consideration next time I post a hand. This was my first post.

I don't mind if he's weak tight, although 150 is like half pot, so I would go 200 or bigger. But if he's a thinking player, he's going to realize that you rep very little.

River problem: pot $480 and hero bets $150.

Anyways , this is enough feedback for the results to be posted.

He called……Q10o

Wow, you guys were all right on point.

This hand happened a couple weeks ago. The kid was from out of town so since he would not be someone i would be playing against in the future I lightly brought the hand up a few orbits later and joked that I donked of a couple hundred to him and told him it was a good bluff but a better call, he said I was almost out of his calling range, DAAMMNNN. He was right and so are you guys. This made me realize that one of my leaks is not betting big enough on my river bluffs when I think a player is weak but I can't beat him in a SD. So since then I have beefed up the bluff size. Thanks, with all this good feedback I'm sure I will be posting more hands in the future.

On paper this hand seems so obvious to bet bigger on the river, but I guess In The moment I was thinking about how long it took him to call the $105 raise, and relatively speaking $150 didn't seem so damn small at the time, but clearly I was wrong and if was extremely small, he had to call.

I would go $250-$300 if I could do it again.

Always keep track of the pot size...

And listen to ANL above...

+1
AintNo

Expanding on the later streets:
--If you're going to rep a hand, you need to make bigger raises and bets which are harder to call and give worse odds to station

Turn:
raise of 100 is pretty small. If your opponents are good, its pretty cheap to call with any piece on a board with plenty of bettable draws.

Better Choices:
A) Call--Odds are great
B) Raise to 250

River:
1 and done on the turn raise is probably better, especially given that your flop check + turn raise makes you rep very little.
However, if we're going to bet the river, we need to toss out something closer to PSB if we really expect Mr Goodlag to fold.
Giving Up and Checking>>>Bigger Bet>>Your Bet

Summary:
If you wanted to fire 2 barrels at this pot, better choices would be 3bet Pre + flop Cbet, or bet flop + barrel turn.

I didn't bet the flop because we were 5 handed and all I had was a gutter, didn't want to fall in a trap and get raised of the nut draw trying to push, then on the turn, I felt like the opportunity hit me in my face with the sb opened for $40, the other players folded and the original raiser just called. I think my mistake was the size of turn bet, and then definitely the size of the river bet, it was just under 1/3 of the pot, and with my bet +pot he was +4 to 1 on his money to call. Sh*t, I make snap calls like that all the time when I'm in his spot. I guess I'm a better caller than bluffer at this point. With that being said, I agree with the points that everyone has made so far, surprised to get so much solid feedback after reading some responses on other threads. Thanks

One more thought, if he is a thinking player and your image is winning TAG, he will realize that you are repping a super narrow value range on the turn with that raise.

KK - 3bets preflop, if not, then bets flop.

TT,88,KT - bets flop.

K8, T8 - might be folding preflop, if not, then bets flop.

J9,96 - unsuited probably folds pre, might think you would bet flop with OESD when checked to.

So that leaves out:

K7,T7 - again probably you fold these preflop.

87,77 - your value range.

Edit: I guess K9 is also possible

Agreed, my thoughts also after the fact, in the moment I was just confident that he had a marginal hand that he wasn't crazy about.

I guess, k9,87, 77 are the most realistic hands I can rep, then J9 and pretty much never 69.

Preflop and flop are fine. On the turn you are getting 5-1 on a 5-1 draw, plus implied odds. I would just flat on the turn. It's profitable to draw.

The problem w/ your turn raise is you represent only 77. I think villain's range is almost exclusively K-X, 10-X, QJ, or maybe some middle pair + gutshot (if he's really stubborn).

K-X will never fold IMO.
10-X will sometimes fold.
Against QJ checking is best.
Against a middle pair + gutshot, a bluff should work often.

If you're going to bluff, you MUST bet HUGE, at least pot. Even then, I'd say bluffing is negative EV.

Just calling with great odds and implied odds is my standard way of playing, but I'm trying to expand my game and start bluffing a little bit more, I thought this was a good spot. I just needed to bet more, or recognize that this player might have been too good, and easily read me for a bluff the way I was easily reading him for a marginal hand, but in this case the player with the made hand wins.

If you know how to do some good stationing, then every time you're bluffing or semi bluffing in the future, AND your opponent is at least pretty good, think to yourself: Would I call this?