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2-5 AQs top 2 vs fish facing river jam + AA facing another river jam 2-5 AQs top 2 vs fish facing river jam + AA facing another river jam

02-22-2017 , 04:48 AM
Reads on V: He cold called a preflop $100 jam earlier with QTo then stacked off on the turn on Txxx for roughly 70bb. Really weak fish who is running extremely hot.

2 limps
Hero makes it $35 in MP with AQ
Loose fish snap calls SB

HU to flop.

Flop ($90): Q4J

Hero bets $50, villian snaps

Turn ($190): A

V snap leads for $110

Hero calls.

River ($410):
7

Villian snap jams roughly $400

Hero?

I play almost solely online so I am not sure what to do vs really bad fish in these sort of spots. Snap bluffing this river is suicide, obviously. Would he really lead a flush draw OTT though, I doubt it. Given his snap jam it makes me think he likely has KT or potentially Ax


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The next hand is vs the same guy about 2 hours later. $1100 eff.

Straddle and a limp.

Hero makes it $50 with AA

Villian snaps SB.

HU to flop

Flop ($70): QJ3

Hero bets $45

Villian snaps

Turn ($160): 5

Hero bets $125

Villian instantly makes it $250. Not one second went by.

Hero tank calls

River ($660):
8

Villian snap jams $690ish.

Hero?

Last edited by bm303; 02-22-2017 at 04:58 AM.
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02-22-2017 , 05:27 AM
You described him in OP but you never stated if he ever snap called hands pre-flop and what that range means.

As played, on river, you need 33% and you're never going to get there.

Well hand 2 you now have more information and you added nothing new to our Villain so it's a little unfair to give you good advice.

However, operating on Hand 1.

Fold turn.
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02-22-2017 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
You described him in OP but you never stated if he ever snap called hands pre-flop and what that range means.

As played, on river, you need 33% and you're never going to get there.

Well hand 2 you now have more information and you added nothing new to our Villain so it's a little unfair to give you good advice.

However, operating on Hand 1.

Fold turn.
OK, villian is not spew donating but he is overvaluing hands all night such as the QTo overcall and stack off on Txxx. He is VPIPing extremely high and I haven't seen him raise once all night preflop. I'd estimate he is running roughly 65/0/0. Postflop he has slowplayed huge hands by calling flop/turn and then putting in a river raise. Specifically he called T8ss vs a nit on AA6ss. Turn 2s. Nit bets, he calls. River offsuit 7 he x/r river(or leads, can't recall).

Almost all of his actions have been snap offs. The quickest one by far though was the $250 minraise in the second hand. He announced it as soon as I said 125.
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02-22-2017 , 05:38 AM
The issue is he's not going to 100% slowplay to rivers 100% and you should be expecting a river bet from this type of villain and you really can't go and call him off unless you've seen him bombing away with 1 pair hands and not just calling.

It's also much more difficult for him to bomb away after you've bombed away so when he shows aggression you should probably treat it a lot differently than if he's known to be bluffy.

You did not provide any information regarding that line of thinking, so it's a fold AINEC and in both hands.
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02-22-2017 , 05:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dochrohan
The issue is he's not going to 100% slowplay to rivers 100% and you should be expecting a river bet from this type of villain and you really can't go and call him off unless you've seen him bombing away with 1 pair hands and not just calling.

It's also much more difficult for him to bomb away after you've bombed away so when he shows aggression you should probably treat it a lot differently than if he's known to be bluffy.

You did not provide any information regarding that line of thinking, so it's a fold AINEC and in both hands.
Here's something that is relevant to the second hand.

Spoiler:
Hero mucks first hand. Villian shows A only. Says, I knew you had an Ace, I had you out kicked.
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02-22-2017 , 05:44 AM
Now you call/call.
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02-22-2017 , 06:11 AM
1) $70 on the flop. Raise/felt the turn donk (probably just shove). As played, I fold river.

2) Decide on the turn whether you're going with this hand vs this guy who's just seems to be clicking buttons.
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02-22-2017 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Postflop he has slowplayed huge hands by calling flop/turn and then putting in a river raise.
This tells you to call hand 1.

If he continues this line, call hand 2.
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02-22-2017 , 06:48 AM
Not true with hand 1, but hand 2 is a definite call.
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02-22-2017 , 07:23 AM
Shove both turns
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02-22-2017 , 05:05 PM
I def stuff 1 ott. I also cbet larger. I totally get your sizing and it's what I use in 10NL and I know the reasons why but live villains leak is that they call too much. They don't bluff too much. They dont fold too much. So it's a spot where we're never really getting folded off of our equity incorrectly and it's also a spot where villains are inelastic from $50- $70. I prolly do $65. A stuff also still gets called by way way worse.

I've got some solid wisdom about him showing the Ah, remind me later. Top 5 live poker theory for me.

Hand 2, Id play same way and fold river. It's a harder spot for him to be over valuing a hand and people rarely follow through otr without the goods. Esp. a ps stuff. So yea I mean even marked whales I usually give credit with river follow throughs and the shooting star times they show a bluff still don't make up enough portion of there overall range. Besides huge HUGE marks. But not just a regular spazzer.

Also, wtf is this 2 card game.
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