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Hero $1200 - SB - Played with Villains before - Not much this session as I just moved to table from broken game. Probably viewed as Tag as I played a few hands where I opened and check/folded bad flops

Villain - $1000~ - BB - Pretty decent player. Have seen him in other casinos when I travel - especially vegas. Seen him play up to 10-25 - he may play bigger? He is nice but solid. I have seen him get it in pretty light before a few months ago for 200bb. He got it in with 99 on a 2783 board - jammed turn vs donks bet who had 27. He rivered him with an 8 river


Straddle is on for $10
2 donks call
I make it $60 in SB with AQ
Villain calls
1 of the donks call


$190
K87

I have a backdoor flush draw and backdoor straight draw

I downbet to $75 planning to continue on any diamond, T,J,A and check pretty much everything else. Not the greatest play but the last 2 hands I check folded and this time I didn't want to just check fold everything I opened.

Villain tank calls
Fold

$340
T

Gotta continue with the plan now
I go $200
He tank jams for $910

$710 more to call - I need 33% here which I don't have so pretty easy fold.

I figure he has hands like KTs - J9s - T9s - Maybe a set?

After I folded he said good fold which I doubt he is lying - he is usually pretty honest after the hand and this isn't really his main game when a bigger one is running.

I guess the only way to play this different is to check/fold flop again?

Ya, really bad board to cbet here. Especially sizing to $75, you’re never going to fold out hands like 99-JJ even against a solid V, plus a fish.
Sucks to feel like you’re continuously whiffing flops and keep giving up, but in reality money saved is money won. Your rate of success in this pot betting $75 on the flop will be very low.

Isn’t this flop a cbet heads up though? Doesn’t seem all that bad to downbet and see a turn for cheap.

Never. I mean if we're gonna start check folding flops may as well just limp everything and play fit or fold bingo.

Can't win every hand.

nh and nh (next hand)

Im cool with the cbet..maybe a little more even up to $100-125..after the call I'd tank check the turn nd try to keep the pot size down because u picked up more equity with the 10d..wouldn't call all in..but Id b willing to see the river for relatively cheap

Cbet seems quite bad 3-way on this texture, i’d check and if facing a reasonable sized bet call. I.e. mostly always calling unless someone pots it or near pots

Ap turn is def a check, this turn smashes his flop continuing range and improves him very well. you will be raised a lot on this turn since it completes straights/two pairs/etc, and you aint folding out much of anything that called flop. Post just seems like btn clicking because you have some form of equity/backdoor equity

I’d also size up pre this deep OOP, they aint folding anyway and i want more money in pre with the best hand

Ewwwww bad line. You coulda stacked him had you taken a better one. Cbet sucks w pro+fish in these positions. You just can't bet this light, especially with a hand that makes for a good check call (for the same reasons you bet turn). Why on Earth would you ck fold flop? Also you have to realize how strong his flop calling range is w the dipsht behind and PFR betting K87r right? Flop is a mistake, turn is a bigger mistake. $275 ent in post and then a fold w a RF draw.

Ya small mistake. Prolly if I stop making these I can make over $60 an hour at these games

I usually make one every 3 hours. And check fold if I have to face a bet over $100 which I see happening a lot. I was trying to see a turn cheaper and felt I could make my own price.

definitely a spot to be fairly aggressive on the cbetting as you have a substantial top end range advantage on this board. you should be cbetting liberally and often, thus the downbet is fine.

the only part of the plan i don't like is that continuing on A is a part of it. that might be the perfect turn card to go into bluff catcher mode as it will substantially improve your range, making it less incentive to get calls.

barreling the Td can't be bad considering how much equity you have, however, it might be a good card to turn your hand into a check/call range. Tx hits villain's flop calling range very hard (T9, T8, T7, J9, J8, J7, etc... all improve to pair plus draw)...

you also block flush draws... so might be nice to have some flush draws in your check/call range so you can have some bluffs on diamond runouts.

You have less fold equity cbetting V because Fish is still in the hand at this point. This is an awkward spot for a small cbet OOP. Plus most turn cards that help you help V's range more, so you're not even setting up for a turn bomb, unless you're committed to bombing bricks with A high like a madman. (I kinda like this) OP wanted that Td and still had to fold to the shove. This is why you x/c these spots IMO.

Guess I don't know what a down bet is

+1 great post

Maybe $70-75 pre.

I don't think a 3-way pot is a spot to down bet. Even with AK, would you size down on this board? Perhaps on K72r?

Frustrating, but checking flop again.

I think you played well. I would bet the flop here and check the turn. We picked up decent equity so I prefer to actualize it. You are mostly against KX that won’t fold to a turn bet so don’t put in money behind. If he bets more than half pot I’m happy just throwing it away.

Opening and then check/folding probably does not get you a TAG image.

Pre is good. I like a cbet, but I don't go small (isn't a down bet smaller than the previous bet?). I go around $100.

As played, turn is a check/call. You hit a great card, but you can't stand a raise, so just check. We don't even have a pair. I am only betting here if I'm willing to gii.

I like the play and I like the plan. We get a decent flop to bluff with representing AK, KK, AA. Then on the turn we need to continue with our equity. If we bluff more than the cards you listed we're going to be bluffing too often, but on this card it makes perfect sense. Nice hand.