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02-25-2014 , 04:54 PM
Me (Cover): 26 year old TAG with a good image. I've made a couple of nice calls and overall played well.

V1 (450): Probably around my age and also TAG. Plays pretty straight forward on all streets.

Pre-Flop
-One limper to me (mid-position) and I call the big blind with 10-5suited (clubs).
-V1 on the button - raises to 25.
-Folds to limper who calls.
-I call (I understand this is a bad play but I've played with V1 and he's relatively easy to read post-flop. I'm pretty sure he has JJ+ and will stack off against two pair, flush, etc).

Flop (75) - 10d 5d 6s
-Checks to me and I bet 45.
-V1 raises to 95.
-V2 folds.
-I call. I think his range is JJ+ and AKd with 1010 a very small portion of the time.

Turn (265) - 7c
-I lead out for 125
-V1 raises all in.

Hero?
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02-25-2014 , 04:58 PM
Fold PF. Easy call.
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02-25-2014 , 04:59 PM
In fact, don't even limp PF. J#$U$......
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02-25-2014 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Terps10
Me (Cover): 26 year old TAG with a good image. I've made a couple of nice calls and overall played well.

V1 (450): Probably around my age and also TAG. Plays pretty straight forward on all streets.

Pre-Flop
-One limper to me (mid-position) and I call the big blind with 10-5suited (clubs).
-V1 on the button - raises to 25.
-Folds to limper who calls.
-I call (I understand this is a bad play but I've played with V1 and he's relatively easy to read post-flop. I'm pretty sure he has JJ+ and will stack off against two pair, flush, etc).

Flop (75) - 10d 5d 6s
-Checks to me and I bet 45.
-V1 raises to 95.
-V2 folds.
-I call. I think his range is JJ+ and AKd with 1010 a very small portion of the time.

Turn (265) - 7c
-I lead out for 125
-V1 raises all in.

Hero?
The bolded make no sense when put together. Overlimping this trash is burning $$$

As played, please b/3b flop, as played call turn...he has OP here a lot
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02-25-2014 , 05:41 PM
3bet flop to $200.
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02-25-2014 , 05:52 PM
Limps 10 5 pre, calls a raise, doesn't get it in with flopped miracle. "TAG that plays well." Lmao this made my day.
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02-25-2014 , 05:55 PM
You justify limping with trash because you know he has JJ+ and will stack off on low boards.

You get your perfect flop and he jams and you don't know what to do. This just shows that your pf call was even worse that you realize.
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02-25-2014 , 06:00 PM
besides obv errors. why didnt you shove flop and why lead turn on a blank board?

if ur logic is saying he will call a lead and cant laydown an overpair OTT then the same logic would say to re raise flop since their could be scare cards for the Vil.
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02-25-2014 , 06:16 PM
Do you guys have any open seats?

LOL at being a TAG that plays well and limps T5
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02-25-2014 , 06:22 PM
preflop is an abomination.

As played, call turn.
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02-25-2014 , 06:28 PM
Not to harp on the previous posts, but I think this deserves a little more explanation not only in this spot but for other 1/2 and 2/5 players as well.

First, playing 10 5s is tough. Even when you get dream flops (which really doesn't happen that often) you usually don't want to play a huge pot because there aren't that many hands that are shipping their stack in without a similarly large hand. So, even when you occasionally get a dream flop you don't feel great about playing for stacks.

Second, you say that part of your reasoning is because the players play poorly post flop. But, are you really that much better than everyone else that you can put in 5% of your stack pre and spot your opponent both position and a better hand?

I'm not trying to harp on this stuff even directed at you specifically, but I've been helping some friends lately learn to play 2/5 nl live and limp/calling is rampant even from the "more solid" players.

Do you also get why limping is not the solution to how to play bad hands? When you limp/call, you've narrowed your range a lot right? Unless, you are balancing (against those who notice) by also limp/calling with big hands (and this just seems like such a waste of your good hands) then you've narrowed your range to pretty much those hands that aren't strong enough to raise with.

Also, you don't have the lead in the hand. The pot is also rarely larger than 30 dollars and usually 5 or 6 handed (makes it hard to steal postflop). And, when you actually do raise, your range is influenced heavily if you limp usually.

Furthermore, for the most part, it seems like people limp because they know their hand isn't strong enough to raise to 20/25 etc. But, then they call that much when someone else raises. It just seems kind of silly right?

I think all 1/2 and 2/5 players would be infinitely better off if they just never limped. Yes, there are arguably a few situations where it is okay or even advisable to just limp. But, as a general rule, I think everyone's game would drastically improve if nobody limped these games at all.

Just try it for a few sessions and see what you think. I'm willing to bet you play tighter, steal more pots, and win more on your big hands which are just a few advantages of not limp/calling with bad hands or even your good hands.
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02-25-2014 , 08:00 PM
This hand is a joke. Nice level???
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02-25-2014 , 08:40 PM
You're playing completely out of position with a terrible hand. I know you didn't limp technically since you're the BB And had 5$ in there already but just fold preflop. These are the types of hands that will lose you significant amounts in the long run, you're not going to flop like this very often so you're burning that 25$ a lot more than you get in return on it.
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