First post here. At a local casino where I normally play 1-2 but ran $200 up to around $2k and am terrible at getting off the table. Decided to take a shot at 2/5 once I was at $1k on the 1/2 table and the game had slowed down. At this point it was around 6-7am and I had played for upwards of 15 hours straight.

I have a very solid image at the table but at this point it is 4 pros and 2 recs, myself included. The player at my right and who I play this hand with is a known 10-20 player who has made some very good plays even in the 3-4 hours we had been playing.

Effective stack: $1500

Friendship aside were in the BB in this hand and he is in the SB. He raises to $30 and I look down at AKs as the last to act, make it $100 to go. He takes a second and calls.

Flop comes AK5 rainbow

He checks to me and I make it $150 to go, hoping he connected enough to continue. He flats and we see a turn.

Turn: 3 that completes the rainbow. effectively a brick in my eyes
He checks I make it $300 and again he flats.

At this point some alarm bells are going off in my head, considering he open folded QQ two hands prior on a 984 board with a flush draw because of preflop action and was right. So his range doesn't include any combos of 55 or a 33 that floats which leaves him with two combos of hands that beat me.

River is another blank and V jams for the remaining ~$800 or so and I?

The other noteworthy hand prior to this with V vs. someone else was that he jammed a K turn with KQ into what I had ranged the other guy having AK+ and sure enough drilled his Q on the turn to suck out. So I knew he didn't have a completely polarized range bluff/value.

Again first time posting so any and all feedback is appreciated.

Call.

Pot is huge, we have top two on a brick board so we are way above our bluff catch range, I call. And then I go back in time and decide not to go to a table where I'm outclassed.

This is a trivial call as played, don't let the amounts of money scare you off.

I trimmed your post, but generally:

1. If you're going to take a shot, do it before losing 50% of your stack and becoming scared money for the rest.

2. If you aren't a 2/5 reg, I can't recommend taking a shot at the end of a 15 hour session...this might also be part of what led to losing half your stack.

3. How do you have a solid image if over half the table are pros, and one 10/20 player? Keep in mind, the goal is always to make sure the fish has a good time. I feel this may have caused you to misinterpret your table image.

What, no blind chop?

This line is usually a desperation play with a busted draw or the nuts. However given that its BvB his range is much wider. A5/A3/K5s could all make an appearance here. How long did he take to call the turn? If it was a quick turn call its usually a draw, but JT/QJ are the only draws and thats a weird call. I also disagree that he cant have 55. Raise/call from the sb is fine this deep.

I call here. I think there are enough worse 2pair and bluffs in his range, not to mention the other AK combos. This is just a cooler if you lost.

Without giving away the ending of the hand quite yet, I had played probably 9-10 hours prior to moving to 2-5 and had doubled up there as well. Only showed down with strong hands since I autopilot after 6-7 hours which is a default as I used to play online a lot before I started working full time and now only play casually to make some money on the side.

The casino is about 2 hours from my house so I typically overstay even when I am up big.

Fair, :beer: :thumbup:

Trivial call.

This is a massive leak and you need to correct this.

Why are you getting so big on such a dry board? I'd bet this size against a loose-passive whale but not against a 10/20 TAG reg.

$70 on flop. AP $225 on turn. AP call river.

As played downbetting the flop probably would have been better. He would check raise turn which might be enough to get me off the hand. But considering I had taken 55 out of his range I probably still call down any bet going forward with two combos beating me.

The end of the hand basically was me snapcalling him flipping it over and asking if we’re chopping and he was like “Didn’t think you’d call, I thought you were messing with me.” And turns over the two missing Aces.

I knew it was a trivial call towards the end but my biggest concern was the line I took and if anyone isn’t getting the money in on brick turn and brick river. I pretty much always fast play live when I make a big hand, running bluffs at a much lower frequency than online until I know who I’m playing with.

Yeah I kinda feared AA or KK even with our blockers. Just a total cooler.

Like others have said though, regardless of distance to the casino, 15 hours in, there is no way you are at your peak so u really should pick up. It is a hard lesson that all of us have had to learn at some point (not in this hand), making a few huge errors that destroy an otherwise good 9-10 hour session in one fell swoop.

It's not about getting away from your hand. You're going to lose a fortune this hand regardless of how it played out. If you went $70 into $200 OTF, then you bet $150 into $340 OTT, he x/r to $500 and you call, river he jams $830 into a $1340 pot and you call. You lose your stack either way.

What it's about is trying to get value off a strong player who can hand read and knows how to make laydowns. He's not paying off 3 streets with AQ or even A5s here - at least not when you size your bets this large. You're folding out worse hands and only getting called when you're chopping or beaten.

It works well for your entire range if you bet large on wet boards and small on dry boards. Bet larger when you need to deny equity and bet smaller when you're either way ahead or way behind. Play this way against strong regs.

EDIT: your strategy is great against loose-passive fish. This is the correct way to play against most of the field at $1/$2. But it's not correct against strong TAG regs.

I late to the party and results have already been given so feel free to say Im being results oriented but I fold the river.

Its a 3 bet pot. You pounded the flop AND turn (bets were WAY too big BTW)...and now he comes alive and shoves the river? What do you think that he thinks you have?

He knows you have KK/AK and he doesnt care. This is never a bluff. I would call with KK but fold AK but I wouldve bet much less and probably even checked the flop to keep his range wide and give him a chance to bluff me off QQ/JJ

Thanks for all the feedback. Appreciate the validation on the call towards the end. On the other hand as far as picking up I’m not sure this is the right thread for this but does anyone have tips on when to do so?
As mentioned I’m 2 hours away so I’m typically planning on a 10 hour session that ends up lasting longer. I bring 4BI for 1-2 and if I play it up to 800 I will take the buy in off the table and move up to 2-5 with 100bb for the remainder of the night/day. Leaving after a single BI there but I typically almost always play better when I move up since people at 2-5 have fold buttons and don’t want to punt off $1k to a well known 1-2 reg.

Outside of that I don’t typically have a plan on when to leave. One time I spent over 24 hours there, winning significant money, and only picked up when I literally fell asleep at the table with over $3k in front of me at a 2-5. So if anyone has a standard they use I’d love to try it out.

I routinely drive 2.5 hours to foxwoods which rooms are $200+ night and that is far cheaper than being stacked off from not being alert.
6-8 hours is my max no matter how good the game is.
plus having a room allows you the option of breaking more often into 4-5 hour sessions
much better to be the SHARK then to become the bait

I’m not setting spending a minimum playing time for a session. I’ve had situations (I’m sure I’m not the only one) when I first started playing being up a quick $500 on a 1/2 table during the first hour. Didn’t want to leave yet cause I basically just got there and ended up losing the $500 plus a couple additional buy ins during the course of a 12 hour session. I live only 15 minutes from the poker room.

Should have self imposed rules. Time limits, quite after being up/down certain amount of cash, not drinking during a session, etc. and adhere to it.


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Your strat looks good to be honest.

I usually set a time I want to leave by, usually based on how long I want to be there. When I'm in the last 30-60 minutes, I reevaluate and set a new target if needed.

Also, take the free coffee if needed lol. I usually load up before going though.

River is not a trivial call but your flop and turn sizing is enormous. I wouldn’t be taking 55 out of his range either.

Average LLSNL players would C/R the turn if they decided not to 4bet pre, hence the reason why he probably decided to go with river shove instead.

Plus when it is 300bb deep in LLSNL and OOP, a lot of thinking players would feel better off to narrow your range down without giving you reason to fold. After all, it is a lot harder to win bigger pots against non-droolers when the perceived range is incredibly small.

River call is not trivial at all. You have to consider your opponent and how he can call with worse pre/flop/turn.

How can he try to bluff catch you on flop and turn only to bluff you on river?

Can a decent larger stake player call with JT or QJ OOP and call all the way to river only to bluff after he missed?

I can't justify a river call other than the fact that we have top two. Works fine in 100bb game with that rationale, not so much in a deep game.