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Originally Posted by QuadJ
If villains are competent then you should fold. You have to put both villains on a pretty wide ranges for the situation before your getting odds to call. If either one of these villains had raised I would get it in, expecting the pot odds to justify shoving/calling. I don't think your beating both enough to stick around.
V1's raise is sized so he is never folding if you shove. After your obvious possible squeeze he may not need a monster to do this, but he is planning on calling if you shove unless he is on some total air bluff. There are probably a lot of pairs and not many worse AX in his range, expect a lot of QQ/JJ here. V2 has to be aware that V1 isn't on garbage here and still went all in, so his range is going to be better then average. How wide depends on how much he wants to gamble, but there should not be a lot of low pairs in his range, it is more big AX, medium/high pairs and probably a few big suited connectors.
I'm pretty new at PokerCruncher on my iPad but I'm going to give it a shot in hopes of contributing.
Using the above supplied ranges as a guide, I gave V1 88+, AJs+, AJo+. I gave V2 77+, ATs+, AJ+, and JTs, QJs, KQs.
Using those ranges and Hero's AKo, PokerCruncher returned equities of 34% for V1, 33% for V2, and 33% for Hero.
Since Hero would be committed if he called he might as well shove. Therefore he has to put $325 more into what will be a $1425 main pot (small stack of $450 times 3 plus the three $25 calls of dead money, plus blinds minus rake).
(.33 equity x $1425 pot = $478) minus the $325 to call V2's all in = +$153 main pot expectation
Then there is the $350 side pot of Hero's last $175 versus V1. Using V1's range above gave Hero 53% equity. $350 side pot x .53 = +$185 - $175 bet = $10
$153 main pot + $10 side pot = $163 positive expectation
I hope this helps. (And I also hope I did it right.)