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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
^ I don't agree at all with shoving pre. I can't imagine ever doing that with aces and it really narrows my range (like I have a hand i'm scared to play out of position with). Also, I no longer have any fold equity if villain 5 bets. If Villain 5-bets, Villain can only have KK or AA.
I don't play 5-2 but a 1-2 you can get very odd calls to shoves...and given stack sizes I may shove AA here.....A limp shove here often looks like 88 to a lot of players...I have seen calls hear with hands like AQ...
Doing what you did gives a really bad stack to post ratio...as I said and I try to avoid them....(multi way with an all in, I really do not have an idea of my target SPR )...but my default with AK is to avoid that 1 to 1 to 2 to 1 area like the plague...
you could raise to 200 get the spr less then 1 to 1 and shove any flop...but I don't like putting 40% of my stack in planning to fold to a pre flop shove (I guess it might be right)... it is a total disaster if he happens to shove AK or QQ here, and you fold...And my guess is a lot of players call you with AA here anyway,why would he shove.
If he shoves with KK now (if you raise like 200 bet)...your eqiuty in the pot is 320 and a fold is a mistake..
My guess is mathematically if you fold out smaller pairs (QQ, JJ, TT , 99) and some hands that have equity against you (JTs type) with a shove but pay off AA KK by shoving, with your blockers you are probably doing bettor overall.... it gets worse if he going to call with pairs, call any flop with out an A or a K and fold out when one comes...
stack sizes are going to make this a tough play no matter what you do and shoving I think is best...