Hero-late 20's. $700. I have been very active and showing down solid hands when shown down. Also have taken down some pots squeezing and 3 betting and c betting. Not sure if viewed as tight it loose tbh.

Villian 1-$600.Asian kid who is on tilt and has opened last 3 hands in a row to 35 and taken down pre. I beat him in a big pot where I took it down with psb on river. Didn't show hand, but he seemed irritated by my aggression.

Villian 2-$600. black dude with beats by dre on. Relevant hand was where he led out on a jack high 2 to flush board into 4 people, I was only caller on button with JTo. Turn brought flush and he checked, I decided to check behind with Jack of spade. River brought off suit 10 and he bet really weak, 1/4 pot. I raised pot and he begrudgingly called. He had J10 and we chopped.

Hand-villian 1 makes it 35 again in MP. I flat in cutoff with AKo. Bad? Villian 2 flats on button.

Flop- $112 K74 rainbow. Villian 1 bets 40. Hero?

i just flat. this board is so dry, a raise with someone to act behind you looks super strong

I think we have to raise pre because this is the 4th hand he's raised. I'm also def getting it in here pre if the situation presents itself. I would probably raise to $135-150.

As played I'm flatting the flop. Lets hope V2 comes along. Betting or raising turn on pretty much any card

I'd think you have to raise pre, you've already got the villain's number on a previous hand and he clearly doesn't like aggression, I think you have to just keep villain off his game and have him trying to "outplay" you (which usually means spew).

As played I'd flat the flop and give the villain the urge to bet the turn big. Let him hang himself.

Ok. Here's where it gets interesting. I raise to $110. Villian 2 has the same body language as the J10 hand and calls. Villian 1 calls!

Turn- $438 K7410 complete rainbow. Villian 1 checks. Hero?

Odd spot. Pot is 438 and they have 455 behind.
Torn between a 175 type bet and just moving in right here.

3b pre, as played call flop, 225 turn, jam river

Yes, I got myself into a mess and it gets worse. Lol. Just wait

That's why I'm posting this

@OP I would not have 3bet this pre as original raiser is already turning this into a big pot for us with a 7x's BB pre raise, and if you spike your card in position you can let him hang himself. Other then that the general consensus is flat flop, 175-225 turn, jam whats left on the river. The problem occurs when you raise and V2 calls behind, if your making a raise to isolate against the tilt-a-whirl it didnt work, if your raising to see where your at you now know, so the only question left is this....is V2 the kind to flat a bet and then a raise with top pair? Or is he only flatting 2pair + ....... you obviously have V1 crushed unless he woke up on his 4th random hand with wonky AA-KK (unlikely). But V2 likely has you crushed unless he's a pretty solid donkaments. As played raised on flop I hate it but im probably still getting it in on the turn :/

My raise was to induce tilty to make a move. And possibly get value from a weaker king if either has one.

In a vacuum, flatting was correct. But I felt that with the current dynamic the raise was correct. So, now what do I do on turn?

I would deff like a raise preflop to 100-115. If he's getting annoyed by you're aggression then you should try to use that against him.

as played i just call b/c we're not worried about too much on this board.

If we raise and he calls then there is a good chance he has a k or just thinks you're trying to buy it. If he checks turn i would bet like 3/4 pot and look to get it in

Ok let's continue to butcher. Hero checks, Villian 2 bets $150, Villian 1 folds hero?

$588.00 Villian has $305 behind. Hero covers.

This is going to be a big hand pretty much every time imo. I don't have a major problem with calling with the intention of check/folding all rivers. Yes that's right, check/folding all rivers even though we will be getting great odds. If villain still ships river after this line he has got a monster 99% of the time.

As played, I think I just fold to turn bet.

I like Superman's thought process here... I think this is going to be a big hand pretty much all of the time... the other times you're probably chopping... I just don't see how you're EVER ahead here (KQ?? KJ?? really? nah!!)

Calling and folding to a river shove is pretty gross, but it might allow you to chop the pot some % of the time

Now I can understand the big hand thought process. imo calling with the intention of c/f on the river is just bad. If you're gonna fold, then fold.

I think vill 2 is just rarely bluffing here and likely he flopped a set

I'm getting it in on the turn. I think he bets more if he has a set because of the JT hand. He bets $150 into 438 and it looks pretty weak. He may have hit KT but he can also be doing this with KQ,KJ. I'm also just bombing the turn and putting him to the decision.

We have 64% equity against his range of AK,KQ,KJ,KT,and Sets.

Does the T bring a flush draw on board?

Nope, no flush. Rainbow bro.

I think flatting turn and then c/f river like mentioned above is terrible. If you are going to continue with the hand just get it in. If you think he only does this with 2pair+ fold but I'm not folding here

1) 3b pre to 115. Makes V1 more inclined to spaz.

2) I would feel a lot more comfortable flatting a $60 bet otf than a $40 just to not give V2 odds/implied to draw, even for a two pair, just to let V1 hang himself.

3) Disgusting turn bet. It's either hands that beat you, or KQ, KJ, and my hunch says it's hands that beat you. That turn bet is just screaming raise me. I mean, one of my goals is to be good enough to fold this, but I'm not. It's easier folding this reading about it, but at the table it's different. Fold :|.

Lol. Donkey supreme time. Hero hee-haws and insta-calls 150.

River $738 K 7 4 10 10 rainbow. Hero first to act?

well i guess now you have to c/c. No way im folding

The question is if there is any merit to just shoving it in myself?

Flatting pf here is terrible, I raise the flop to 100, trying to get stacks in vs tilty