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Originally Posted by cassurai
Bet turn and fold to a check raise. It's still a 2 street hand. Same as calling a river bet.
If you check back turn, and river brings a scare card, it may go check check and you lose 1 street of value vs KJ, QJ, TT, etc etc.
You are therefore risking giving up one street of value vs those hands and trading it for potentially a street of value by inducing a bluff or light value bet on the river. Don't think it's the most profitable move.
The reason why betting the flop + turn with TPTK is still profitable @ LLSNL is because nobody over-folds TP to a turn barrel or even mid pair sometimes (we aren't playing online).
What would happen if people started folding the turn at a high frequency w/TP or all their middling hands + draws? We would obviously make less money by betting the turn (duh). But lets be realistic ppl make horrible calling mistakes that are so -EV at LLSNL there are whales for miles here.
And vs. some villain's you can 3-barrel TPTK IP OTR if it's a spot where you are never going to fire 2 barrels and villain loves to hero + doesn't fold to 3 barrels as well as some other factors...
But sometimes i like having a xing range OTT very dependent tho. Or it may be more +EV to check instead of bet/fold here vs. some guys. Etc.
Last edited by Evoxgsr96; 06-12-2016 at 11:39 PM.