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11-21-2012 , 12:35 AM
v1 650 : 30 y/o white guy, very funny guy that gives off the impression that he plays a lot of hands but who is in fact pretty taggy. Heard him earlier ask another reg if he thought his value bet was too thin...
v2 800 : 60 y/o bad regular, just calls too much in general.

Hero 1400: 25 yo TAG, pretty good image.

2 limps, hero looks at A2 on the BTN and gladly calls 5$. SB completes. 5 to the flop!


FLOP: A25 (pot 25$)


villain1 leads for 10$, villain2 calls, folds to hero who makes it 45$ (raise/folding)...v1 calls, v2 folds


TURN: 4 (pot 115$)

villain1 checks, hero bets 65$, villain1 raises to 180$, hero mucks


Weird turn spot, I'm not really sure he keeps calling with worse on the turn when I bet. I think I choose to bet just to avoid getting bluffed...would've hate to face a bet OTR.
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11-21-2012 , 12:46 AM
Don't think I'd bet the turn here. You are just hoping to get value from a bare Ks or an ace with the Ks/Qs, otherwise you are pretty much crushed. V probably flopped a flush or flopped the straight, doubt he is making this raise even with a set.
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11-21-2012 , 10:30 AM
Standard I am pretty sure I am playing this the exact same way.
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11-21-2012 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mightymartz
I think I choose to bet just to avoid getting bluffed.
you still very well couldve been bluffed..


raise or fold pre

also, what hands are you afraid of here? i would call and reeval on the river, if V checks, check it back and expect to be good there
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11-21-2012 , 01:58 PM
I think your line is fine throughout. PF I prefer a limp to a raise after two limper but raising is fine too. OTF I like the raise. Have you seen V1 make this weak lead before? Trying to read if it means he wants a cheap turn or is strong. Also, what position was he in? It helps evaluate a TAG's range.

OTT, I think you need to bet to get value from Ax especially with a spade and maybe KsX. Without other reads, you have to take his C/R at face value and fold.
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11-21-2012 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by High__Rolla
Also, what position was he in? It helps evaluate a TAG's range.
I'm also interested in the above.

His weak lead makes me think he isn't that strong and he can easily be bluffing the Ks here. I think I call and re-evaluate river.
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11-21-2012 , 08:27 PM
I hate the turn bet. The 4d is a scare card; he's never calling with worse, unless he has a spade draw.

A better line is:
check it back on turn;
blank river --> call most river bets
spade river --> fold to any river bet
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11-21-2012 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mightymartz
v1 650 : 30 y/o white guy, very funny guy that gives off the impression that he plays a lot of hands but who is in fact pretty taggy. Heard him earlier ask another reg if he thought his value bet was too thin...
v2 800 : 60 y/o bad regular, just calls too much in general.

Hero 1400: 25 yo TAG, pretty good image.

2 limps, hero looks at A2 on the BTN and gladly calls 5$. SB completes. 5 to the flop!


FLOP: A25 (pot 25$)


villain1 leads for 10$, villain2 calls, folds to hero who makes it 45$ (raise/folding)...v1 calls, v2 folds


TURN: 4 (pot 115$)

villain1 checks, hero bets 65$, villain1 raises to 180$, hero mucks


Weird turn spot, I'm not really sure he keeps calling with worse on the turn when I bet. I think I choose to bet just to avoid getting bluffed...would've hate to face a bet OTR.

c/c turn, re-evaluate river
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11-21-2012 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fluoxetine
c/c turn, re-evaluate river
ok.

1. Don't quote the entire OP when you're replying.

2. You can't check/call the turn when you're in position. The check/call means you check from OOP, then call if your opponent bets. We're in position. Our opponent checked, so we can either bet or check.

3. Try to avoid simple 1-line advice. 're-evaluate river' isn't really advice at all. Try to be specific; which actions correspond to which cards? What would you do if a spade hits? How about a 3? How about an Ace? How about an offsuit Q?
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